What [automated] apps (or techniques) do you use to ensure radio transceivers are off?

it does.

yes.

it's under app control.

They're both using the same news server, aioe.org.

You have to be careful with the word "precise" because at least on Android it means different things to different applications.

For some it means what you seemed to have meant which is satellite location but for other apps (often google's apps) it means a lot more radios go on.

Still, all of them should have manual switches to turn them off.

If there is a manual switch in the operating system settings, why can't an app press that slider based on automatic conditions (like disconnection of a wifi access point connection)?

Some of these intelligent disconnections based on current conditions are probably already coded into the operating system setup, aren't they?

Anonymous is correct. All aioe headers have the same ip address. It's how it works.

I didn't see who but someone is thinking they understand the aioe headers. When they don't understand anything about them.

Worse is they accost people based on their own misguided misunderstandings. People like that shouldn't make accusations based on their misinformation.

apps can request different levels of location precision. some apps only need a general area (e.g., weather), whereas others need exact location (e.g., navigation, finding lost items, etc.).

there is no need for that.

Oops me bad! Yep five.

You need to quantify what /you/ mean by exact, and whether the application means the same thing, since navigation works fine with just satellite.

To say otherwise would mean you don't understand how navigation works.

Of course there is. To say otherwise is not reasonable.

Battery drain & data costs may not be important to you but you're not everyone. When they make a phone, you're not the only one using it.

If the phone maker wanted the receivers on all the time they wouldn't be giving you the many switches that exist to manually turn them off.

more than you ever will, arlen.

Incorrect conclusion. I can't be bothered to check *that* nym/address before that date and I can't be bothered to explain to you why I can't be bothered.

Fine with me. I don't care either way. If I happen to lump one worthless troll in with another worthless troll, no skin off my back. Looks like we're both going to end this discussion happily despite your beef with me. Happy Holidays. : )

Beef? If you thought this was a beef, you have seen nothing yet! :-)

Happy Holidays to you too.

I am curious, so...

Martin goes back to November 2016 in this Android group. My folder goes back to June that year.

He may have posted earlier on other .uk groups which I don't have subscribed, but it would be easy enough to check.

'arlen' has been forging regulars, especially in groups they don't normally post.

True, but not everybody is Arlen. I compared the headers of Martin on

Then there is the language, it is different.

Exactly! that's why I said:

Message-ID: <tcrot1$1r8m$ snipped-for-privacy@gioia.aioe.org>

From that post, I very much doubt that this is 'Arlen'.

But that was conveniently ignored, because it doesn't fit some people's agenda's. Never mind the bogus "especially in groups they don't normally post" argument.

there's nothing bogus about it. 'arlen' has done exactly that and continues to do that.

Sigh! Martin posted in comp.mobile.android, so if 'Arlen' would have forged him, he would have been doing that in the *same* group, so bogus argument.

i wasn't referring to anyone in particular nor did i say he does it all the time. it's just another one among many of his tells.

I found this by searching which says it can be done but that's old,

It's in Settings, Connections, Wi-Fi, top right Advanced, Intelligent Wi-Fi, and then Turn on Wi-Fi automatically

Below that there is also an option to look at your "Wi-Fi control history" which says "View apps that have turned Wi-Fi on or off recently" so it sure looks like apps can turn on wifi automatically and then shut them off.