I tried to drop my expensive data plan on my year-old AT&T blackberry bold but AT&T told me that since September of 2009, they now are "enforcing" that you must keep the Internet wireless data plan (if you have a smart phone).
The say I must keep the data plan until next January when the 2 years are up or pay $125 cancellation fee.
What I don't understand is that I can move the AT&T SIM card to any (unlocked) phone and it will still work, so, what does the cell phone have to do with the Internet data plan?
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:11:52 +0000 (UTC), Elmo wrote in :
I'm guessing you bought the phone from AT&T, which subsidized the price you paid in return for a service commitment from you (contract). Not surprisingly, AT&T wants to recover that subsidy from you, and the data plan is part of that process. It's legal because you agreed to the contract.
Elmo wrote in news: email@example.com:
I think I understand. Your contract with AT&T allows you to drop the Internet data plan if you change your phone to one that's has no internet capability. But you still want to use your Blackberry. Have I got that right?
What you did you change the checksum digit, which is always sent as a 0. So you've got the worst of both worlds: if AT&T ever checks your number, they'll know it's fraudulent because the checksum doesn't match, and if AT&T ever uses the IMEI number you gave them for anything, it will affect your friend's phone.
So you've defrauded AT&T and you're bragging about it on a public forum?
I haven't seen the OP's contract with AT&T, but from his machinations, I'm gonna guess it says something like "You agree to buy a Blackberry from us and in return we agree to provide phone and internet service at fixed price for two years. During the duration of the contract, if you switch your service to an internet-incapable device then and only then we will cease charging you for the internet portion of the service agreement."
The OP has kept his Blackberry while knowingly providing an incorrect IMEI number to AT&T. He has thus deceived AT&T into obtaining service on his old internet-capable device while not paying the contractual amount he agreed to for such a device.
Now, it's absolutely true that the OP pays for and only for the current service he uses on the Blackberry, but it's not up to him to unilaterally change the contract he has with AT&T, even if he feels that AT&T is being unreasonable.
AT&T's policies don't always make sense. Please believe me when I say I speak from long and painful experience. But in this case, AT&T may have subsidized the OP's purchase of the Blackberry, which money they expect to make back during the service period, partly by charging for internet service. The OP now has a much niftier device than a RAZR even if he uses it only as a phone+PDA. Especially niftier (from his point of view) because he got AT&T to pay some of the freight in violation of his agreement with them.
Even if the OP bought the Blackberry elsewhere, in general, he still isn't allowed to unilaterally change a contract he entered into.
Meanwhile, at the alt.internet.wireless Job Justification Hearings, Deadrat chose the tried and tested strategy of:
Who doesn't allow him to? He's just done it [apparently] by asking AT&T.
No. What appears to have happened is that the OP has decided he wants out of the contract, and AT&T have just said "oh, alright then". I'm unsure how AT&T can avoid losing money on subsidising handsets if their customers can end the contract at will without penalty. There's obviously more to this little tale than I'm privy to.
I don't know. How can Cricket NOT force you to sign a contract, and NOT charge an ETF when you cancel your line. Yet have stil been in business for over 10 years ? Yes, they make you buy the phone first.
For the ones that 'give' you the phone, you pay for it many times over the life of the contract. That's how they hook you in....'but you get a free phone'.
When I search for "cell phone" in groups.google.com, the groups that show up are (in this order) the ridiculously off base "alt.guitar.tab", "do-you-have-microwave-sickness", and "misc.activism.progressive".
On the other hand, when I type the same search into
I get a much more realistic set of groups, namely "alt.cell-phone", "alt.cell-phone.tech", "comp.theory.cell-automata", "alt.tv.cell-block-h", "comp.dcom.cell-relay", etc.
Neither comes up with the best groups (alt.internet.wireless and alt.cellular.cingular) but at least giganews is vastly better than google groups' search.