This is very interesting that every *installation* gives the devloper our Google Play account information!
Is that true? Does anyone here have a developer account?
What information do you get?
PS: Luckily, all mine is made up, but if they get the phone number and the "city" (you wrote "suburb" whatever that means), that can only be attained by geolocation of my device at the time of the download (or by IP address geolocation) since it's not in the normal Google Play account signup.
I do perfectly well with freeware, gaining *all* the functionality *I* need with free apps, and not losing a thing. So, my confusion with what you meant above had nothing to do with the freeeware part above.
My confusion with what you posted is how a cloud is supposed to help me.
As you can imagine, by design, I want *nothing* whatsoever of mine on any Internet cloud. However, you're talking about a cloud at my own home, totally under my own control. Is that correct?
Since I have Linux and Windows, I am aware that there is freeware cloud server software that I can set up at home so that my phone "syncs" with the home cloud (totally within the home private LAN).
However, I'm not sure what the *benefit* is even of having any cloud. Besides the obvious backup in case of disaster (which I'm not worried about in the least), what's the advantage of having a local private cloud?
You said this, which I don't understand the tradeoff of:
How does a lack of a local private cloud (or the lack of any cloud whatsoever, which is what I have now) cause me to 'barely get any advantage from owning a smartphone'?
I'm doing just fine *without* a cloud. If I were to set up a cloud, it would *only* be a private freeware cloud on my linux server (e.g., Folder Sync Lite on Android with SMB/OwnCloud on Linux perhaps?).
So, Andy, you seem to know a *lot* more than I do. I respect your knowledge
I only ask ... Can you un-confuse me?
What would I do with (any) cloud that I'm not doing now ? (besides backups, which I already have covered by another method).
No. And this is also *not* what the articles says! A developer *may* get the name and billing address of users who *purchase* his apps. Just that information that Google Wallet exchanges for a financial transaction.
Yes - I have. But I don't sell any app. My work is Open Source and available for free on Play Store and F-Droid.
For free apps: the total number of installations grouped by severa critria like Android version, language, region, device type etc..
If the app ever crashes and users devide to send a crash report I also get the report as well which includes technical details about the crash, but with no personal information about the user at all.
What app functionality must you pay for on Android that you can't get for free?
Someone name some, because "I" have everything I need, and it's all free of cost and obnoxious ads (I delete any obnoxious ads instantly) and spying (I turn all that stuff off with permission managers).
Name functionality that most of us need on Android that we can't get for free.
Taking them, in reverse order (because it's easier), I have:
Offline Map Software: F-Droid OSMAnd~
Music Player I'm sure PowerAmp is feature rich, but I use this, which is fine for me: Music Player By JRT Studio
Calculator I'm sure the pro version works great, but for "my" calculations, even the freeware version is good enough for me. But, I just downloaded it since you basically are saying it's a great scientific calculator: RealCalc Scientific Calculator, By Quartic Software
GPS Tools Like you, I do plenty of backcountry hiking and mapping, so I have tons of freeware GPS related tools that work fine for me. For example: a. GPS-Coordinates-gps.coordinates.share.sms.email-16-v3.22.apk b. GPS Essentials-com.mictale.gpsessentials-402023-v4.2.23.apk c. GPS Status-com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2-111-v5.3.111.apk d. GPS Tracking-com.fsp.android.c-10555-v7.2.apk e. GPS Tracking-com.fsp.android.c-10557-v7.2.apk And many more.
Backup My phone isn't rooted, so, AFAIR, I can't even use the free Titanium Backup, but, really, what do "I" need by way of backup anyway? a. Backup of data (pictures, contacts, videos, music, etc.) b. Backup of apps
Both those are *easily* attained via freeware, and especially easy when you have a 128GB external microSD card like I do.
So, I simply redirect the folders using a freeware ridirect app a. Redirect File Organizer by Xavier Tobin
And then I back up *those* folders using the normal file explorer on either Windows and Linux (using the FTP url as the "folder"): b. WiFi FTP Server by Medha Apps Tools
I even automatically back up all my installed APK files, using: c. App Backup & Restore-mobi.infolife.appbackup-53-v3.2.0.apk
I just noticed that this app no longer seems to be freeware on Google Play? Is that correct? (Luckily I have the APK long ago backed up!)
So, while I realize your needs are far greater than mine, with a little effort, I can replicate your needs (pretty much, right?) using freeware?
The cost is that I have to "think" harder than you do, in order to get the functionality I need, for free.
This is a *good test* of my (unproven?) concept that everything "I" need is already available for free.
In that spirit, name some other functionality that you actually need, and I'll see if I already have that functionality, for free.
This is a *discussion* group. This thread posits a *discussion* which is a question of fact. If you don't like the *discussion*, nobody forced you to enter the fray. But, if you *do* enter the discussion, you should probably make some sense.
The original question was whether our SSIDs are being sent to Google. The answer is yes (very much so).
The logical question arose as to how to prevent that, and how to see what was already in the Google public database.
We're still working on those answers. If you have valuable input, as Andy Burns did, please let us know as there are still unanswered questions that might benefit all.
It's not about malware, it's about returning information to the app's developper.
No, you can't. You can only turn off *groups* of permissions. If any permission in a group is *needed* for the app to work, you can't turn off the permission group and the app can use any permission in that group.
Duh! Of course you can download the APK and install the app. But you can't *use* the '+' functionality of the app (which in this case is (mainly) unlimited maps and unlimited map updates).
And rest assured that OsmAnd+ is one of the best - if not the best - of the (nearly) free navigation apps. So I'm happy to give the app developers (and *maintainers*) my 10 dollars. 10 dollars, mind you! Not
*really* a rip-off/unsurmountable amount, is it!?
BTW, how does that free phone work for you? How did you get it for free? How do you use it for free? Free calls/texts/mobile data/wifi? Free electricity? Free cover? Etc., etc. ad infinitum? And how about that free computer of yours and that free Windows and those free disk drives?