Re: DSL Speed

Choreboy wrote:

>> A relative has a farm. His phone service comes in on 700 yards >> of ordinary telephone cable buried along his driveway. Last >> week he got Bellsouth DSL. It comes in on the same conductors >> as before, but I've seen speeds fifty times faster than dialup > And >> Between the CO and the customer, isn't voice service just bare >> wire? > Not necessarily. But let's clarify some terminology first. > I assume that: > - By "between the CO and the customer," you mean what's > commonly known as the "local loop."

If only I had remembered the right term!

- By "bare wire" you don't really mean "bare" (as in > uninsulated); you're simply implying that there's nothing in > the wirepair, other than copper conductors, that would affect > the transmission of signals.

Oops, I was thinking "not coaxial" and "bare" popped into my head.

Based on those assumptions, here's an attempt to explain "local loop": > it's a pair of metallic (usually copper) conductors between the > customer's premises and the telco's facilities. The conductors are > designated "ring" and "tip." These terms originated from the physical > configuration of the plugs used in old manual switchboards. Photo: >
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. Note that the term "ring," as used here, > does not mean "ringing the telephone." > The two conductors are usually twisted together, and contained inside > a cable along with several other wirepairs. At the customer's > premises, the conductors may run parallel (not twisted) in the drop > cable from the pole (or pedestal) to the building. > At the telco's end, the loop may terminate at the CO, or it may > terminate at a "digital loop carrier remote terminal" (DLCRT, or just > RT). Telcos often deploy RTs to provide POTS service to outlying > areas (e.g., new residential neighborhoods or business parks) in order > to reduce the number and/or length of wirepairs needed to provide > service to additional customers. Photo:
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I'll know to look for something the resembles the sermon billboard in front of a church.

Each RT is connected to a host CO, and from the point of view of the > customer, it's indistinguishable from the CO. POTS lines served from > the RT are switched at the CO; the RT simply relays signals back and > forth between the customer and the CO. Numbers are part of the same > NPA-NXX blocks as the host CO.

Is it indistinguishable if the customer has a V.90 modem? I think I've read that an RT won't allow 56k dialups.

Each RT is connected to its host CO by one or more digital circuits. > Depending on the number of POTS lines needed, the digital connection > can be as simple as a single T1 implemented over two copper wirepairs, > or it can be some multiplexed combination of several T1s implemented > over coax, fiber, or microwave. See
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Does an RT entail an extra A/D conversion?

Whether or not these digital circuits are part of the "local loop" is > a matter of some confusion: I've heard it both ways. For the purpose > of this explanation, I don't include them. > Now slightly restating the original definition, we can state: the > local loop consists of two copper conductors between the customer's > premises and the telco's CO or RT. > For POTS service, this copper pair carries an amazing number of signals: > - Balanced baseband analog voice signals in the range > 300 to 3000 Hz., carried in both directions simultaneously. > - Audio control signals carried in the same 300-3000 voice > passband: DTMF signaling tones, dialtone, ring, busy, fault > tones, etc. > - DC loop current resulting from a DC bias voltage ("battery") > applied at the CO or RT. Originally, this current was > necessary to operate the carbon microphones (or "transmitters" > as they were called) of older telephones. Modern telephones > don't use carbon mikes, but they still need DC operating power > for their transistor or IC circuits. Because this voltage is > applied directly across the talk circuit, it must be an > absolutely pure DC voltage (no noise, no ripple). Typical > battery voltages, applied at the CO or RT, are: > Tip = ground > Ring = -48 volts > - On hook/off hook status, implemented by interrupting the > DC loop current: > Loop open = no current = on hook. > Loop closed = current > 20 ma. = off hook. > - Rotary-dial pulses, implemented by interrupting the DC loop > current at specified intervals: > One pulse = "1" > Two pulses = "2" etc. > Ten pulses = "0" > - Caller ID data, carried as analog data in the voice passband. > > - Ring voltage to ring the customer's phone. The typical ring > voltage for a single-party line is 90 volts at 20 Hz, > asserted across the ring and tip conductors. In party-line > service, several alternatives have been used: > Different frequencies (up to about 70 Hz). > Different connections (tip-to-ground; ring-to-ground) > Different ring cadences (one long, two short, etc.) > Combinations of above. > All of the above signals are carried at frequencies below 4000 Hz. > Although the voice passband is limited to 300-3000 Hz, the actual > range of the audio channel extends to 4000 Hz. > The 3000-Hz cutoff represents the highest frequency necessary for good > voice communication. That may not be very good by modern hi-fi > standards, but it's fine for voice. > Dialup modems (data, fax, home-security, whatever) all utilize this > same frequency band. There are several modulation schemes floating > around, but they all do basically the same thing: they modulate the > data signals onto one or more analog audio carriers, which are then > carried over the loop in the 300-3000 Hz voice band. > Every audio signal arriving at the CO (or RT) is digitized at a rate > of 8000 samples per second before any further switching or > transmission takes place. This sampling rate is dictated by the > Nyquist Sampling Theorem, which states that the sampling rate must be > at least twice the highest frequency being sampled. See >
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> After sampling, each sample is quantized at one of 256 discrete > levels, and the resulting value is encoded as an 8-bit binary number. > The final result is a PCM data stream of 64,000 bits per second. This > data stream is then transported to the customer's ISP over the PSTN. > Note that dialup-modem data signals carried in the 300-3000 Hz voice > passband are not demodulated at the CO or RT; instead, they are > sampled at 8000 sps just like voice or any other audio signal. This > fact imposes an absolute theoretical maximum dial-up data rate of > 64Kbps. As other contributors have noted, it's impossible to attain > even that rate in practice due to synchronization errors between the > user's modem and the sampling rate.

A carrier vor V.90 must have some very precise modulation. It's amazing that an 8kHz sampling can capture it well enough to be useful.

Note further that this 4000-Hz limitation is imposed by the CO (or RT) > equipment, not by the wires themselves. It's possible to use > frequencies above 4000 Hz for other signals. And that's exactly what > DSL does. At the CO, a separate piece of equipment, called a "Digital > Subscriber Line Access Multiplexer" (DSLAM) is connected ahead of the > voice processing equipment so that it can provide an independent path > for the DSL signals. Small DSLAMs can be installed in RTs. The DSLAM > acts as a modem at the telco's end of the loop: it communicates with > the customer's DSL modem using RF carriers in two frequency bands: > Uplink (Modem to DSLAM) 30- 110 KHz Downlink (DSLAM to Modem) 110-1100 > KHz > The DSLAM demodulates uplinked data carriers to recover the original > data stream. It then sends that data stream to the customer's ISP > over whatever data link the ISP has installed (which might even be > another DSL link). For downlink data, the DSLAM accepts data from the > ISP and modulates it onto a downlink carrier for transmission to the > customer's DSL modem. The maximum speed is limited by the speed of > the two data links, the equipment involved, and the policies of the > telco and the ISP. Images: Large DSLAM for CO installation: >
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Small DSLAM for RT installation: >
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They can bond copper loops to go as high as 27 Mbps!

NOTE THIS DISTINCTION: > - Dialup modem signals are carried to your ISP over the > PSTN as a 64Kbps digital representation of the analog > signal that your dialup modem originally generated. > - DSL modem signals are carried to your ISP as the actual > data stream your DSL modem started with. > Choreboy also asked or commented: >> Are there inline amps [between the CO and the customer]? > There are no inline amps, but there are plenty of other things that > can impair DSL signals (and, for that matter, POTS): > NOISE. Wirepairs inside a multipair cable are not individually > shielded (although the cable as a whole may be shielded). Each > wirepair is twisted so that inductive crosstalk from neighboring > wirepairs is cancelled out, but some residual crosstalk (particularly > from other DSL-carrying loops) may not be completely cancelled. > External signals, such as power-line transients or AM radio station > carriers, may be inductively coupled into the cable. Drop cables at > customer premises are usually not shielded; these cables are also > vulnerable to external noise sources, particularly from nearby > power-line transients.

Twisting is like low-tech coax. It was advised when using a 300-ohm flat cable from a rooftop TV antenna. I imagine it could help for telephone drop cables.

With one ISP, I kept dropping connections around lunch time. One day I had no trouble. I noticed the mill down the street was closed. The drop line to the guard shack comes from the same aerial terminal as mine. The guard shack would get a lot of calls at lunch time. I wondered if crosstalk from his ring signal was getting me.

All of these noise sources collectively impair the ability of the loop > to carry DSL signals.

Local loop cables (trunk cables?) seem to deteriorate. Phone men seem to look for available pairs when customers complain of noise. I wonder if voltage from nearby lightning strikes might cause pinhole damage to the insulation of twisted pairs, and over the years it gets hard to find a good pair.

Noise can be mitigated by careful testing to track down noise sources, > and then by making appropriate repairs. Several manufacturers make > test equipment for this purpose; see
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I used a DMM to check milliamps. My noise came from a spade terminal in the wall jack. I cleaned off the patina and the noise was gone. Low tech!

SIGNAL ATTENUATION. Like any other electrical circuit, telco > wirepairs comply with a fundamental law of physics: the higher the > frequency, and/or the longer the wire, the greater the attenuation. > This situation results from the interaction between the interconductor > capacitance and the DC resistance of the conductors themselves. Taken > together, these two parameters cause the wirepair to act like an RC > circuit (textbooks frequently represent a wirepair as series of lumped > RC circuits; see
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for an example). > Th is problem can be mitigated by careful selection of transmission > voltages and by judicious consideration of the tradeoff between loop > length and transmission speed. Ultimately, however, this situation is > one reason for the limitation on the length of loops that can be used > for DSL. > LOAD COILS. The frequency-dependent attenuation characteristics of > the loop (as described above) also affect voice band frequencies > (300-3000 Hz), resulting in rolloff of the higher frequencies of voice > signals. To solve this problem, telcos have traditionally installed > "load coils" at 6000-foot intervals on long (typically >18K feet) > loops. A load coil is a small inductor installed across the > conductors to cancel the affects of interconductor capacitance. > Although load coils reduce high-frequency rolloff within the voice > band, they cause severe attenuation above 4000 Hz. See >
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At DSL frequencies I would have thought coil impedance would be too high to matter. I don't quite grasp it.

Load coils might be one reason a particular phone sounds distorted at a particular location.

This problem can be resolved by removing the load coils and/or by > restricting DSL service to loops without load coils. Of course, > removing the load coils brings back the original problem: rolloff in > the voice band. Furthermore, any attempt to remove load coils assumes > that the telco actually knows where they are (anyone who has ever > worked with telco outside-plant records will recognize the futility of > that assumption). Appropriate test equipment can be used to determine > if load coils are present, and to indicate their approximate > locations. > BRIDGED TAPS. In a typical telco distribution network, big multipair > "feeder" cables leave of the CO or the RT, and head off throughout the > service territory, often along main streets. Smaller (fewer wirepair) > distribution cables split off from the feeders to serve the customers > in a "serving area." As the distribution cables pass through the > serving area, "drop terminals" are installed at intervals. From these > terminals, drop cables feed individual buildings. A single-family > home is usually connected by a two- or three-pair drop; larger > buildings are connected by appropriately larger drop cables. > In areas where outside plant (OSP) is installed on utility poles, > telco drop terminals are called "aerial terminals" or "boots"; > typically, a terminal is installed at each pole. Images: > Aerial terminal:
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That's what somebody pointed out to me as an inline amp. If I could remember who it was, I'd correct him!

Aerial terminal:
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Pole with terminal:
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Drawing of interior:
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page 74 of 77 > In areas where OSP is buried, drop terminals are installed in > pedestals. In urban areas, telco peds are usually installed in > easements along rear-property lines. In rural areas, peds are usually > installed along roadways, at the edge of the right-of-way. Telco peds > are often placed in "ped clusters" near CATV peds, power peds, and > power transformers. > Images: Telco ped, closed:
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Telco ped, open:
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Ped > cluster:
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> Each drop terminal has: > - Two cable ports for the distribution cable: input and output. > When a drop terminal is installed, these ports are often > sealed as protection against water intrusion. These seals > make it virtually impossible to gain access to the individual > wirepairs within the distribution cable.

As I recall, a phone man appeared to have an aerial terminal open after I lost phone service one day. He said he'd made a mistake and would try to figure out how to reconnect me.

- Several drop ports, one for each wirepair in the distribution > cable. These ports are usually implemented with screw > terminals or punchdown blocks.

Across the street, a small trunk line (cable with lots of wire pairs) comes from the aerial terminal down a couple of feet to a fusebox on the utility pole. (I think the telco calls them something besides fuses.) The drop cables come out of that box.

Every wirepair appears at every drop terminal. When a drop is > installed, the installer connects it to the assigned drop port at the > nearest terminal; electrically, the drop is bridged across the > wirepair. But the portion of the wirepair downstream from the bridge > remains connected, and unterminated at the far end. These > unterminated downstream wirepairs have come to be known as "bridged > taps." > These unterminated wirepairs act like tuned-stub filters. Since > they're unterminated, arriving signals are reflected back; these > reflected signals interfere with the primary signals. In the extreme > case -- when the reflected signal is 180 degrees out-of-phase with the > primary signal -- the primary signal is severely attenuated.

Offhand, that sounds like a stub of 1/4 wavelength. Could the modems could mitigate the problem by the frequency they negotiate?

This problem can only be solved by locating and removing bridged taps. > This can be an exceedingly difficult job if the distribution cable is > sealed at that point where it exits the drop terminal. > Test equipment, such as the Fluke 990
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, can be > used to determine if bridged taps are present, and if so, their > severity. If the effect of a bridged tap is "minimal" (Fluke's term, > not mine), it can probably be left in place. >> Is DSL modulated into some sort of analog signal? > DSL signals are modulated onto carriers in two bands: > Uplink (Modem to DSLAM) 30- 110 KHz > Downlink (DSLAM to Modem) 110-1100 KHz

I wonder how they're modulated.

> It's hard to imagine carrying hig-frequency digital pulses on >> copper telephone lines. > Well, T1 circuits do just that. But carrying high-frequency pulses on > a POTS loop would present a different problem: overlap with the voice > passband. >> The farm appears to be 35,000 feet from the central office. My >> browser often shows downloads faster than 1.5 Mb/s (150kB/s). > If the farm is indeed 35,000 feet from the CO, then I'd have to > conclude that the loop between the telco and the farm is actually > connected to a DSLAM-equipped RT, not directly to the CO. Look for a > large metal box somewhere along the road between the farm and the CO. > It will have an electric meter; it will probably be set on a concrete > pad, and it might be surrounded by a security fence. >> On dialup, the farm couldn't negotiate modem speeds quite as >> fast as I could in town. I assumed the limitation was in the >> wire. That's why I was amazed to see that DSL seems to use the >> wire in the same way as dialup. Was I wrong to think the reason >> dialup data rates were slower at the farm was that the wire to >> the CO is longer? > I'm not sure that it is longer. See previous answer. >> I don't understand what kind of signal dsl uses to carry so much >> more data than dialup without needing broadband cable. > I hope I've answered that question. >> Ah, crosstalk! It seems to me that if DSL uses the same wire >> dialup used, the same crosstalk will be present. > Crosstalk is indeed present, but it's usually only a problem when two > DSL-carrying loops crosstalk to each other. >> Does a POTS line from the CO to a house carry multiple >> voices? Anyway, DSL at the farm uses the same line that >> the phones at the farm still use. > In current practice, there's usually just one analog voice channel per > loop. > Historically, telcos have used various "pair gain" schemes. In one > scheme, additional voice channels ride on RF carriers superimposed > across the primary voice channel. See
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. In > another scheme, a "phantom" channel is run on two loops, yielding a > total of three voice channels on two loops. As far as I know, these > schemes have been phased out by now, but I suppose there might be a > few still in service somewhere. > Of course, T1 circuits running on copper are still widely used today. > Drive down country roads, and you'll often see T1 repeaters spaced at > (approximately) one-mile intervals. Each T1 can carry 24 voice channels > over two copper pairs. But a T1 wouldn't normally go to a farm. > Photo:
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. >> I have trouble understanding on the phone, and I often resort to the >> phonetic alphabet to be understood. I think the problem may be more >> in the typical quality of phones than in bandwidth. > I agree; however, the limited bandwidth is also a factor. > In a previous life, when I worked for a radio station, we sometimes > used phone patches for connections to remote locations. At each end, > we'd connect a "phone patch box" directly to the ring-and-tip of a > phone line. Then we'd dial up a connection with a conventional phone, > switch in resistors to keep the line open, and hang up the phones. > Voice quality wasn't as good as it would have been with a wideband > audio circuit, but it was certainly far better than it would have been > if we'd used the telephones themselves. More than adequate for a > sports or news report.

I wonder if the phone patch box had adjustments to flatten the frequency response. I used to listen to Koss studio headphones (with liquid-filled cushions) plugged into the jack on the front of a stereo. One day it occurred to me that with 220-ohm series resistors, the impedance was too high for 32-ohm phones. I used resistors to make voltage dividers with an output impedance of 1 ohm or so. What a difference!

With a phone line, I guess it's not just a question of impedance. It might need a graphic equalizer.

Of course, making a direct electrical connection to a phone line was > illegal back in those days (late 50s, early 60s). But we were on good > terms with the phone guys, so they just looked the other way.

Could you have gone to the federal penitentiary? Was there a good reason for the law?

> If the telco owns the DSLAM, won't their investment cost depend on >> capacity? > Yes. But the equipment doesn't have to be installed all at once. > Once the initial investment in the infrastructure (cabinets, racks, > power supplies, etc.) has been made, circuit cards can be added as > needed (equipment manufacturers call this approach "scalable"). It's > the same approach telcos take to POTS. >> If they contract for the DSLAM service, won't they be charged >> according to traffic? > Telcos don't "contract for DSLAM service"; they contract with other > ISPs (e.g. Covad) who wish to offer their own DSL service over telco > loops. The telco charges them for the use of their loops. Telco's > claim they can't charge enough to recover their costs, but that's a > whole different story -- one that will precipitate a thread even > longer than this one. >> Think what would have happened if RG-59 hadn't been invented. >> Everybody would have used RG-6, which looks nearly the same but >> attenuates uhf much less. With better reception there would have >> been more uhf stations and less demand for cable. > As a former cable guy, I don't agree with that. Many UHF stations > depended on cable TV systems to distribute their signals throughout > their "specified zones" (which, back in the '60s and '70s, was a > 35-mile radius around the city of license). This was particularly > true in mountainous areas where cable T systems carried UHF signals > to specified-zone communities that were beyond the reach of their > transmitters.

With a bow-tie antenna, a good UHF amp, a rotator, and RG-6U, we could receive so many channels that we weren't interested in cable.

Neal McLain

Thanks, Neal.

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