FS: (18) LCD1901HD 19" HD LCD MONITORS, NEW IN BOX

True... and we're not set up to take "online" orders anyway. As with everything else in life, you have to "shop around" for the best deal. I was merely pointing out that Robert's pricing leaves a lot to be desired and buying the most expensive monitor isn't going to matter all that much (except to your wallet). Heck... these days you can't even compare "apples" anymore. Theres a distinctive difference in flavor between "galas" and "MacIntosh"... :-)

And still, you won't tell us the model number of the Acer HD monitor that you quoted! Not only don't you tell us how to order from you or what firm you represent you refuse to even tell us the specific product number and now say you won't sell to us anyway! I'm sorry Frank, but whether Robert's prices are high or not he at least offers full disclosure about what he's offering and has credibility... something you won't allow yourself to have.

I'm sorry Bruce. But to quote the great "Alarminex"... Posting information like that will only help "you know who". If you want that info, you can email me. At least you know I'll answer. You are correct in that I don't sell online.

A lot depends on whether you are looking for a PC monitor or HDTV.

Widescreen 19" LCD PC monitors from well known manufacturers are less than $200 (US) from reputable dealers like buy.com, BestBuy, etc.

While I doubt that many people would be interested in such a small screen for HDTV, the ToteVision LCD-1901HD ($1169 list) supports NTSC/PAL although it doesn't appear to include a tuner. On the ToteVision web page there are huge discrepancies between the "Specifications" and "User Manual" so it's impossible to determine the real capabilities and tell fish from foul but

Plus - a story in today's NYT recommends waiting til January when dealers will be dumping excess inventory.

looks like some are starting early.

Even those prices are going to seem high very shortly. The demand for LCDs is very elastic. People find it easy to justify replacing a CRT with a few years left when LCDs cross a certain price threshold. $200 was one of those price points and $100 is very likely to turn out to be another. After all, you get some desk space back, a lower electric bill, extremely sharp corner resolution and other benefits. What's not to like?

Well, I'll tell you! (-: Now that I've deployed a few I've found it's often not until you buy one that you understand what "native resolution" means and the nuances of various "dead pixel policies." Dead pixels, for certain applications, pretty much mean "get a new monitor" and for you to use the star-speckled one for word processing. What I dislike the most about LCD panels is that the angle of view almost never equals that of a good CRT. I know it on my workbench, where I consigned the dead pixel CTX display I bought. I could read the old screen standing or sitting. Not so the new LCD.

I guess I need an auto-face tracking camera mounted on the top of the screen and some sort of pan and tilt mount to keep the screen pointed at me no matter whether I am standing or sitting. I could probably get by with some sort of jumbo "day/night" mirror mount for the screen that I could "flip" to cover the sitting and standing positions. Or I could just put the old Viewsonic CRT back on the bench. It turns out that it's the best choice for connecting to the wide variety of PC's that find their way to the bench top because CRT's don't suffer from native resolution issues. The LCD was cool in the beginning, but all in all, for that specific app, the CRT still rules.

As for the glut, I define the word to mean putting SO much product out on the market at SUCH a low price that more than one manufacturer goes belly up or exits the market as a result. I don't think it's going to happen this year, but it could easily happen after the next. It could just as easily be true that the coming switch to HD TV will increase the demand for panels. In that case, the point where prices stop sliding could still be a far way off. I suspect that the end price of an LCD monitor will eventually bottom out very close to the cost of the raw materials and the energy used to make and move them. That would put a 19" monitor in the $30-60 range from my very rough calculations.

I just priced mass storage $ per gigabyte on some 300GB Maxtor PATA's that were on sale for $60. That's 20 cents a gigabyte. When 60MB disks were popular and cost $300 that worked out to about $5,000 per gig, at least it does if I didn't misplace a decimal or three at three AM. (-: Too bad we haven't pursued increasing solar panel efficiency with the same vigor or success. Maybe if we elect the son of solar panel CEO instead of a Texas oilman as president, we'll see some motion in that direction.

-- Bobby G.

In today's quarter by quarter business world, Christmas usually means the last chance a vendor will get to pump up their sales figures, even if those sales don't push up profts they still make Wall St. happy because it means the company is not holding inventory into the new year. That's when we see plenty of markdown ads as vendors fear the older, more expensive models will have to be sold at a loss. The Superbowl skews those figures a bit, giving some 1st quarter relief to TV makers when the folks who didn't make the Christmas purchase now spend their $ on a big screen TV.

There was lots of industry chatter last year about Olevia entering the market and doing a lot of damage to the price structure that had been fairly stable up until then.

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I recall reading somewhere that their plan for this year was to market a 23" HDTV for $99 by Christmas time.

-- Bobby G.

Target has the Olevia 219H 19" LCD HDTV (1080i) for $299 so I think a $99

when rlb gets those prices let me know.

He doesn't own a business. He only posts here to antagonize.

In this instance, the situation is somewhat different. The military buyer opted for something other than his original order. The manufacturer was not notified in a timely manner by the distributor (my supplier) of the change so they made them and sent them to the distributor. I already made my profit providing the other model. The distributor, however, is now sitting on 18 extra monitors. I offered to help them by selling the inventory at cost. If someone wants some of them it's an excellent price.

really bothers u huh? :) I think his posts are informative and on topic. ;)

But nearly everybody will need a new TV given the change to digital. May as well make it HDTV if the price is right.

Yes, yes, of course you "know" all about me. Of all your detractors, I find it interesting that you've rarely responded directly to me... I figure I'm closer to the mark than Mike S. (or anyone you've "crossed keyboards" with) ever was. I'm also the biggest "thorn" in your side because I tell it like it is, and I'm able to back up everything I've about you with archived posts (some of which you yourself authored). Your continued "non-response" to my posts is the biggest compliment you've ever paid anyone in Usenet. Feel free to continue your rant, little man.

...and yet you STILL won't give us the Acer model # you said we can buy (although not from you) for so much less.

I have no idea what devices you are using. My desktop monitor is a

I guess if you use a cheap model you can have all kinds of problems. The monitors I mentioned in this thread are not cheap. They're not TV monitors. They're also not intended for use with a PC (although they can be). They are high definition CCTV monitors. The manufacturer is Tote (one of the best in the CCTV industry), not some knock- off you got at Costco or Wal-Mart.

Each to his own. My set (recently replaced the

(although not from you) for so much less.

Like I said before, Olson is all moo and no beef. :^)

Take off your polarized sunglasses!

Seriously, I have installed lots of LCD computer and video monitors and the viewing angle is on par with CRTs for all but the oldest and cheapest models. The widescreen Dell I am using right now is readable for almost 180 degrees on both axes.