simple firewall for windows that doesn't do invisible stuff

Jun 27, 2007 22 Replies
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Hi. I am currently using outpost and it pisses me off, it's screwing up my VPN connection for no apparent reason (no blocking logs are present but nothing works over VPN unless I disable Outpost), some invisible rules that cannot be turned off pop up, the experience is very annoying.



Is there any simple firewall for windows? I don't need ad blocking, attachment checking, DNS cache and all that, I just need a simple network forewall that does what I tell it to do and doesn't do what I DON'T tell it to do and is not pain in the ass to use.



Is there such a firewall?



Yes.

Yes. What windows version?

No.

which is?

Dobry den, Sergei Shelukhin, ty skazal:

Is wipfw that what you want? It comes from BSD.

Nadeyus on pomogaet. Wolfgang

Try Sygate 5.5 b 2710 for Win98 or Sygate 5.6 b 2808 for Win98 and XP

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Ahem... maybe you should take a look at the requirements again. Sygate s*it surely is PITA, since it allows any random attacker to crash the system run arbitrary code, escalate privileges etc.

Anyway, I can't see how you could build a firewall with the Sygate HBPF. I'd say it's impossible.

My main purpose in running a firewall is to keep malware out of my machine. Sygate's ability to do that is dependent on the users ability to write Advanced Rules to keep the crap out. If the crap can't get in, it can't do harm. My Sygate serves me very well--has for 6-yrs. C

Why don't you consider a decent AV application?

No rule could help if it's trivial to circumvent. Trivial as in "exploit_of_your_choice | fragrouter -relay $TARGET_IP" to create overlapping IP fragments, which bypass all of Sygate's rules due to a bad implementation of IP fragment reassembly.

Sygate is the REASON why crap can get onto the machine in first place. Heck, just visiting a website is enough to exploit one the many buffer overflows in the HTTP filtering module.

Yeah, and we'd surely believe an incompetent fool who isn't even aware of the well-known vulnerabilities in his crapware (and therefore never bothered to actually audit it).

And how is that supposed to work? Dude, you're even abusing MSOE as a news reader.

Now consider receiving a mail, encrypted via S/MIME and the key retrieved via OCSP (just in case you're actually scanning POP3/IMAP connections, as stupid as this might be). MSOE decodes it in memory, then the exploit is triggered, and the malware executes in memory. It load arbitrary libraries, calls all the way to shutdown your AV application, which doesn't even get the chance to intercept this trivial process.

When did a personal FW become a malware solution? The PFW/packet filter's job is to stop traffic/packets. Its job is not to be stopping malware.

If you don't have SG killfiled, I suggest you just ignore SG. He is about to have another one of his ridding up on his cockroach and laying down his 10 Commandments from his cockroach episodes if you let him get started.

Yes, the Windows-Firewall. It comes with your copy of Windows.

Yours, VB.

Because :)

Darn, should I apologies to MSOE? I really don't have any regrets, though :)

This really makes sense... unfortunately the uninitiated may not quite follow you; But this is really an old chapeau :) Now, keep 'em educational posts coming, won't you!

"Sebastian G." schrieb

Does this also work when using a software such a "mail security" or "Postpruefer"

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which allow to check and delete mails and attachments on the server without using the mail client?

Corinne

  1. Wipfw comes from BSD/FreeBSD's 'ipfw' (an ipfw2 port can be found in the SVN), whereas CoreForce comes from the way more complicated OpenBSD's 'pf'.
  2. CoreForce is f***ed up by bundling it with "application control" and other stuff that messes up the system, thus at the current stage is definitely no option.

Yes, ipfirewall was developed for FreeBSD[1].

By complicated do you mean "feature rich"? Because their syntax is unsurprisingly similar. But it hardly matters with CoreForce since there's a GUI included[2]. Wipfw, on the other hand, is not bundled with a GUI. I suppose one could use Firewall Builder[3] with it, though.

It possible to use just the firewall portion. There are several host based IPSs for Win32[4] but I've not had the time or need to investigate them all.

-Gary

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Sorry, you misunderstood my post. Once again (simpler): The main purpose of a firewall is to control connections from internet into your machine. To control virus, trojans, etc., use AVG, Adaware, Spybot S&D, Spyware Blaster, etc. C

Not in this port. Anyway, it's also the architecture that is pretty complicated.

There's also a GUI for Wipfw (just look at the SourceForge Project website). Anyway, you normally want a scriptable command line.

AFAICS you always install all parts and then you can only disable some particular modules. "Disable" as in still existing hooks, but allowing everything through.

ACK.

To control virus, trojans etc. I use access control (surfing as a restricted user) and try to use actually patched software not vulnerable for spyware and other types of malware a.s.o.

Wolfgang

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