One question the iPhone 4S reviews all seem to ignore (size of the GSM SIM card!)

FYI, according to my research... Regular size SIM cards can be physically trimmed to fit in the iPhone 4. You might be able to find a little device that does the trimming for you.

I had no idea!

Googling for "how to trim a SIM card", I find there is an iPhone 4G "SIM card cut" procedure that turns a standard Mini SIM card into a Micro SIM card!

Amazingly, when I switched to T-Mobile and bought an unlocked iPhone 3GS, nobody told me that I could have bought the iPhone 4!

I wonder, once trimmed from a mini SIM to a micro SIM, if the trimmed SIM card can fit BACK into a normal mini sim slot?

I don't touch the Fruity Stuff, but I heard it described as a microsim. You should be able to find a video of the "event."

While I detest apple crap, I really don't have an issue with the microsim. Over the years, simcards have been getting smaller. My first GMS phone had a simcard nearly as big as a credit card.

So whatever. They will make smaller cards. You can probably get them at phone kiosks in the states if you really want to make sure you are set up before you leave the country.

What you really need to be asking is why the hell doesn't Apple use UMA. Or why the hell don't they cover the T-Mob frequencies. Seriously, what a bunch of wankers at Apple.

Personally, the 4S is a stupid phone. It still has the glass back that cracks. I'd skip that piece of junk and wait for the iphone5 in the metal case. I can't say the metal case will help it work as a phone, but sure as hell that back won't crack anymore. There are about 4 class action lawsuits against Apple for that junky design. Mostly woman have those cracked iphone4's, probably due to cramming them in their purse. To keep an iphone4 from not cracking, you need a freakin' otterbox, which takes a slim phone and makes it chunky. Dumb.

The damn chipset craps out at 14mbps. Hell, blackberry can do that. Android has data rates up to 42Mbps onT-Mob.

The iphone4s is a loser. I can't see Apple waiting a whole year for the iphone5. I bet it will be out in less that 6 months. The iphone4s is simply not competitive. AT&T is rolling out LTE, and that isn't even in the works for the iphone4s. I think most fanbois won't jump ship and go Android, but not a lot of people will consider the 4S a trade up. They will wait for the 5.

Whatta troll.

Actually I post here all the time. You're the troll.

Pretty moronic to run an iphone on T-Mob. You only get EDGE. I guess nobody told you that either.

Check around with the bloggers. I'm not the only one who thinks the iphone4s is a crappy product at this time.

This site confirms both the iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S contain a Micro SIM card slot.

Now that I know I can simply scissor trim the Mini SIM to a Micro SIM, I'm hoping that the iPhone 4 prices will drop precipitously on Craigslist when the iPhone 4 (and again with the iPhone 5) come out ... so that's when I'll get my kid another iPhone.

For me, I dropped AT&T because they force you to have a data plan even if you never wanted it (even with a data block in place); so I went to T-Mobile.

For my kid, using the iPhone on T-Mobile is just fine since his only data is WiFi (T-Mobile, in contrast to AT&T, allows you to have an iPhone phone without a data plan).

My kid doesn't need cellular data; he just wants the keyboard of the iPhone and the gaming apps.

Unfortunately, I can't talk him into an Android phone in the least!

It's called scissors. At least that worked for me and my wife.

Lorenzo

miso wrote in news:j6o525$9ej$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org:

Then you should be ashamed, troll.