Devcon Buys Out Coastal Security, Adelphia, & Guardian
Well, I'm BAAAAAACCCK and I just couldn't resist responding to this pile of s*it.
R.H.Campbell wrote:
Really? Well I think you're a stupid son of a bitch too.
You make assumptions and exemplify your stupidity and lack of business acumen
On that I have no doubt. You've gone on F****NG ENDLESSLY for YEARs on this stupid bullshit of yours, constantly showing just what a stupid businessman you are.
But if you did write a book the title of it would be:
"How to run a business without the primary goal of making a profit and giving your customers everything they never needed or wanted, but making them think that you're the good guy and everybody else is a scam artist, but being able to do this depends upon the fact that I've got a pension and income from other sources that other small business competition doesn't have so that I don't have to depend upon this business to make a living for me and my family as most other small businesses do and also I don't have to build equity in the business as everyone else does as a retirement cache. And how you can try to jam it down the throat of everyone in a Newsgroup who don't give a damn WHAT I do but I'll still constantly bring it up and finally when someone takes exception to my incessant interminable and repetitive ranting, I'll get pissed at them for taking issue with me and accuse them of being a cheat and stupid and a scam artist and all sorts of unsavory things, even though
- I'm* the one who can't stop bringing up the subject of long term contracts when no one else does even though I know that what I do isn't the norm and that I know that I'm in reality insulting and calling everyone else in the group crooks, scammers, cheats, crooked, stupid, and out to get the client, knowing full well that one month contracts, free service, and holding rates for
There could be more but that would require a continuation of the title on the back cover.
Which simply adds to my point at how stupid a business plan you have.
Oh now that's simply BRILLIANT!
And another thing, your constant touting of your $15.00 a month, never seems to indicate that this is in Canadian dollars. Very deliberately deceiving, if you ask me, since most of the people in the Newsgroup and those who visit are from the US. This is really taking a direct slap at the simple little dealer out there, trying to make ends meet with you implying that $15.00 per month is adequate for monthly monitoring.
And you'd do anything and give anything away that is detrimental to implementing a viable business plan that would make your business as successful as it could be and provide a retirment cache. And then you have audacity to complain about people who are more successful than you are, because they've set a course that will be most profitable for them yet not unacceptable to the clientele. You are just about the most ignorant asshole I've ever come across. You go on and on about this stupid giving everything away to the customer as if it were an intelligent thing to do. As if the primary goal of every company should be to base it's business plan on giving the customer everything and making the least profit as possible. You go into a potential clients home and offer them everything they never wanted.Everything they never needed. You brag the fact that you're so stupid that you give things away to them at your expense. Not being as stupid as you, they take it. You don't even have the common sense to know that if you just offered them a standard system, standard contracts, standard service, if you had any talent at all as a salesman, they'd be your customer anyway. What do you expect them to do if you're giving away the store with every system? Of course they're going to take it if you give it away for FREE. And I mean actually FREE! If you walked backwards and bent over with you pants down around your ankles into a gay bar, would you expect them to say Oh ..... no thank you?
You're customers don't give two s**ts whether you give your assets away or not. Any smart business man should ...... but not YOU. And you, actually take PRIDE in the fact that you're stupid enough to not make the profit you could make. You're the kind of competition that I hope gets thousands of accounts cause that's all the closer you are to oblivion. You've yet to experience the service problem. Just wait and see what this is gonna cost ya. Likely your business or at least set you back a few years. It's comin ...... get ready.
If you believe that, you going to be in for a big surprise when it gets down to the wire. There's no investor in his right mind that is going to offer you anywhere NEAR what your saying unless he's your best friend. But again, even if it IS so, it can't be expected to happen the same to everyone else. If you still have the capacity to think, you tell me what YOU would do if someone came to you and said, OH, yes, I'm pretty new in this business but my customer base is comprised of clients that only have one month contracts, with 5 year guaranteed price, and all parts and service free for life. And I want 30 times monthly. But my company is a much better investment for you than that company over here, in business 36 years, with 5 year contracts, and collects $95.00 to $125.00 plus parts, per service call.
Yeah ...... sure! Talk about someone with a dream. You're it, asshole.
JEEEZUS you're dense. Why the hell do you think your have your clients? Because you're giving them the value of your company with every sale. THEY don't know what you're doing or how you're doing it , but you're getting the accounts because you're giving them little pieces of your business with every sale. No one else is that stupid, THAT's why your getting accounts. These people don't know if you're going to give them any better service or monitoring response than their last company. You're getting them as customers simply because you're giving them something for FREE! THAT's WHY! What the hell kind of salesman COULDN'T do that, for christ sake? You're doing the very same thing as the "Free systems" alarm companies do, except they're rightly getting their return on the higher monthly monitoring rate. You're giving the value of your company away instead. There's no difference between what you do to get a customer and them, except that your stupid.
And again, you must be ...... nope... you ARE stupid if you believe that any small dealer would work for 35 years earning a living, supporting his family and even though there was a way to set up a retirement nest egg, wouldn't do it because he wanted to give it away to his customers. And you're right, your clients are much smarter than you are. You give them what they never wanted and they're smart enough to take it.( Talking about smart, why don't you tell us again how many accounts your going to let your company grow to? What was that again? 300? 500? 700? And tell everyone what I told you was going to happen? ) And why does that happen? Is it because you don't "lock" them into a contract or is it because you're always there, to give them good service and to help them when needed? You're just an ignorant slug if you think that by giving away free service, free parts, no agreement, and whatever else you're not providing for your companies maximum prosperity, is what's keeping your customers loyal. The only thing that small dealers have to offer, that the Borg can't, is personalized service. That's all the customers want.They just want someone to be attentive to their problems and respond with care and concern. Suppose you gave away all the things that you do now and didn't give them good service? Would they stay with you? Suppose you didn't give them all the things you do and had a 5 year contract, but gave them great service do you think they'd stay with you? Duhhhhhhhhh ?
I've got many many more accounts than you and in spite of your nay-say and doomsday proclivities, my attrition rate is almost negligible. Anyone who does ........ or has to leave, is free to do so. I've never pursued anyone because the left before contract expiration and wouldn't, unless it was a deliberate situation depriving me of a substantial amount of money due for past services . Those that, for various reasons have fallen in arrears are notified after three months that their service will be terminated within 30 days and ....... it is. They're gone. They get the certified letter and the account is canceled. Most I'm out is 2 to three months of monitoring. The point is, on most residential accounts, that after two years or so, if the account goes bad, the cost of collection and the administrative effort hardly makes it worth trying to collect. I simply don't have the time nor do I think it's worth having a customer that doesn't, won't or can't pay me. Why would anyone want a client like that? If they're not going to pay me while I'm giving them good service and while we had a good relationship, there's no reason to believe that they're going to like me, or pay me any better if I force them to pay or force them to continue to be a client.
Well now that REALLY completes the picture of your outlandish policies. Obviously, if it wasn't for the fact that people DID buy long term contracts in your area, you'd have no customers at all. I'd have to agree with you in some degree, regarding this ..... though. You're customers ARE smarter to be YOUR customer. After all, it's not every day that some idiot comes up and gives them everything they never wanted and is willing to screw himself and the evolution of his company, simply to make a sale. And then you prove to be additionally ignorant and hypocritical, by coming here and complaining about your competition underselling and giving things away for FREE.
Ewww Ewww, lookit me! I can give away free equipment an en en free service en en en deprive my company of equity an an in the process make you think that all the other companies are ripoffs. Aint I
smat ....err smert ...... er intelllygent? Duh uh huh .....un huh! They're all crooks ........ but me? NOT ME! I'm jus plain stooopid!
.Well I don't have any qualms at all making it personal when you come here and constantly say that my business practices and the practices of every alarm dealer in this trade who has a long term contract, is a scam artist. I f****ng damn well WILL take it personal. Shove your ignorant self righteousness right square up your stupid ass.
Here's another hypocrisy of yours. You're the one that's often said that ignoring people here, that are annoying is what should be done. But I guess that only applies when it's two other people or when someone takes issue with your stupidity. You don't seem to apply that when it comes to wireless willy or cooper or sonicdick but OHHH that's alright. You can rant all you want about them. But as soon as someone comes back and kicks you in the ass a few times, you go hidey hidey . In real life when you come across an asshole in a group, one at first tries to ignore them, walk away, try to avoid them. When they persist, I don't have any qualms, whatsoever in putting them back a peg or two. But you just can't seem to pick up on the f****ng clues. most here have tried to ignore what you do to insult dealers and your efforts to drive them away from ligitimate and honest companies who's big crime is to build equity in their comanys and make a ligitimate profit. No one here agrees with your business plan. Some will agree with some aspects of it, such as one year versus
5 year, but for the most part, no one thinks that what you do is a good way to do business. Yet you can't seem to give it up. You've got to f****ng CONSTANTLY, recount, over and f****ng OVER again and F****NG AGAIN ......how the entire alarm industry is wrong and you are right. Get OFF it, for christ F****NG sake. Just do what ever the hell you want to do and stop trying to shove it down everyones God DAMMED throat.As long as you keep trying to push your stupid non business plan in this group, don't expect me to stay all pleasant and gushy. You've long ago passed the point of me trying to avoid you, in spite of the fact that you're an asshole. You're an idiot and you've rationalized yourself into this delusion that what you are doing is right and the whole rest of the industry is wrong. There is no authority or anyone with any business acumen who would agree that your plan would play well in this industry and neither would most of the people in this group. Practice what you believe is right for you. That's all fine and good. It may well do for you, but it's not what this industry would nor SHOULD ever accept. The perpetuity of the trade and of small businesses cannot be built on giving away everything for free. Going back to the industrial revolution, the name of the game is profit and the welfare of the client. One can never be favored over the other. It's a fine balance between service and perpetuation of the business entity. Favoring one side over the other, in an attempt to be more successful will always tip the scale. You can't give it away, but neither can you swindle the public. In the end, the customer is the guideline in a capitalistic economy. Trying to preempt the public by giving them what they never wanted to the detriment of the corporation is NOT a balanced plan and if not sooner ...... then later, will turn into a liability. That is (unlike you) for companys who are self sustaining with no outside income and who wish to build equity.
And frankly ....... I don't give a s*it. And YOU'VE got the f****ng nerve to use the word sanctimonious describing ME? YOU'RE the one who's always on your f****ng soap box about contracts.
Here's the plan f*****ad. YOU're the one who always brings up this s*it about long term contracts. Did you EVER see me mention contracts or comment on your asinine practices first? EVER? YOU'RE the one who's got to CONSTANTLY bring it into a thread. Any time you get involved in a thread, especially with an end user, you do EXACTLY the same thing that Wireless Willy does. You just HAVE to bring up contracts. You just have to insult and degrade alarm dealers by implying that their business practices are a scam. And every time someone points out what you are doing you add another qualifier comment to your list of reasons why it MAY be justified to do something different than you do. Why don't you just leave it the f*ck alone and it will end. Do what ever the hell you think is right for your business but there's no reason in the world why you have to constantly put dealers who've worked a lifetime in a position of defending their business practices that will insure a decent retirement for themselves ..... just because YOU don't have to. If you don't stop, from now on you can expect me to be there EVERY GODDAMNED time, to show what a stupid bastard you are. You're efforts to degrade installers for running their business in a way that is different from yours isn't what you want to do in this group, as if you didn't already know that. Just look at the chaos that has occurred in this group and the reasons that it has occurred. It has all been about degrading alarm installers and that's exactly what you do here.
No one here takes offense at what you do to run your business, but as soon as you insinuate that what someone else does is wrong or try to steer end users away from doing business with people who don't follow your policies and that you're way is right, and others are wrong, you've opened a door that needs not be broached.
. As it stands: You shut up and so will I. Simple as that.
And if you'll notice, you paranoid son of a bitch, I didn't post to you in the first place. What's the matter dummy ........ feeling like you have to defend your asinine policies, even when you're not addressed? Sounds like guilt defending arrogance.
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