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I don't want to control the outlet.  I just want a product that is essentially a relay plugged into an outlet.  When there is power the contacts are closed.  When there is not power the contacts are open.


Re: Looking for product. 110 outlet plugin device that acts as a switch based on power or no power.
On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 13:02:13 -0700 (PDT), Joseph Shook

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You could buy a relay and plug it into an outlet!

Seriously, if you explain what you are trying to do, you might get
some better suggestions.

Re: Looking for product. 110 outlet plugin device that acts as a switch based on power or no power.
On Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:24:47 PM UTC-7, Pat wrote:
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tially a relay plugged into an outlet.  When there is power the contacts ar
e closed.  When there is not power the contacts are open.
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I have an front porch motion sensor light.  I have a screw in outlet so I h
ave power access.  I then have a ghost that can be activated via a switch.  
 So I want a product that can be plugged into the outlet.  When the light c
omes on the switch is closed, the ghost turns on.  I do not want to wire up
 110 to a relay.  The only wiring I want to do it to the switch that is exp
osed from the battery powered ghost.


Re: Looking for product. 110 outlet plugin device that acts as a switch based on power or no power.
On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 13:48:17 -0700 (PDT), Joseph Shook

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You could plug a small "battery emininator" into the outlet and use it
to power the ghost instead of its batteries.
  

Re: Looking for product. 110 outlet plugin device that acts as a switch based on power or no power.

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I never see typos until the message is long gone.  That would be
battery eliminator (ie, a small wall wort power supply available at
Radio Shack and similar places).

Re: Looking for product. 110 outlet plugin device that acts as a switch based on power or no power.
So I went down this path.  I used one of my 4.5 wall wort 4.5 supplies and  
soldered in.  This does supply power without batteries but actually does no
t turn on the ghost with just presence of power.  I still need to close the
 circuit with either the built in motion sensor(poor) or push the external  
mountable button.  I am back to my original desire; wish there was a standa
rd 110 wall plugin relay switch.  Technically I there is probably a more co
rrect definition (name) for that.


Now that I have cracked the case and brought out the solder, I might as wel
l solder in a solid state relay.  

Anyway thanks for the suggestions.


On Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:11:09 AM UTC-7, Pat wrote:
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ssentially a relay plugged into an outlet.  When there is power the contact
s are closed.  When there is not power the contacts are open.
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 I have power access.  I then have a ghost that can be activated via a swit
ch.  So I want a product that can be plugged into the outlet.  When the lig
ht comes on the switch is closed, the ghost turns on.  I do not want to wir
e up 110 to a relay.  The only wiring I want to do it to the switch that is
 exposed from the battery powered ghost.
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Re: Looking for product. 110 outlet plugin device that acts as a switch based on power or no power.
On 10/13/2014 12:30 AM, Joseph Shook wrote:
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Most of those Halloween, so called, motion detectors, are really light  
level detectors ... which I guess really detects motion as light levels  
change. Anyway, maybe you could point the detector towards the light and  
when you turn it on, it will fire. Maybe you'll have to flicker the  
light on and off a few times ... hey, that will add to the ambiance,  
too. For years I did Halloween and one of my 1st gadgets was to blink  
the front porch light using radio audio to trigger a triac to make the  
light blink, look random. This scheme also worked good to run a sting of  
mini Christmas lights inside skulls or pumpkins to make it look like  
candles flickering. But now those flickering electronic candles are  
pretty cheap.

Re: Looking for product. 110 outlet plugin device that acts as a switch based on power or no power.
Thanks Art.  
That makes sense, that would have been the simplest solution and so obvious
 now that you pointed it out.


On Monday, October 13, 2014 5:36:16 AM UTC-7, Art Todesco wrote:
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and soldered in.  This does supply power without batteries but actually doe
s not turn on the ghost with just presence of power.  I still need to close
 the circuit with either the built in motion sensor(poor) or push the exter
nal mountable button.  I am back to my original desire; wish there was a st
andard 110 wall plugin relay switch.  Technically I there is probably a mor
e correct definition (name) for that.
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 well solder in a solid state relay.
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 essentially a relay plugged into an outlet.  When there is power the conta
cts are closed.  When there is not power the contacts are open.
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 so I have power access.  I then have a ghost that can be activated via a s
witch.  So I want a product that can be plugged into the outlet.  When the  
light comes on the switch is closed, the ghost turns on.  I do not want to  
wire up 110 to a relay.  The only wiring I want to do it to the switch that
 is exposed from the battery powered ghost.
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