John Navas wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
Absolutely! There's no comparison to the Kindle in bright sunlight. The brighter the sun shines on it, the brighter the display as it's sunlit, not backlit.
Looking through that damned mirror is just awful outdoors.
which is great if you are outside. most people don't read books outside, they read them *inside*, especially when the weather is not all that great.
there is even a kindle clip-on light because the screen is not usable in dim light, such as reading in bed.
i don't doubt it. having to see your face is sheer terror.
Fantastic. Now try that again in a dimly lit plane in a seat with the light unfortunately located slightly ahead of you, or when your partner is sleeping in bed beside you.
Neither is ideal in all situations.
True, but the Kindle display is easier to read in the most common conditions, and works quite nicely with an Itty Bitty Book Light, whereas nothing will help the iPad out in the sun (e.g., at a park or the beach).
NavASS, I can see you now with your "Itty Bitty Book Liight" looking for your "Itty Bitty". LOL!!!
nope. most people read indoors in less than ideal light, which is why there are add-on lights for it.
'it's not a bug it's a feature.'
the ipad works fine in sunlight, which if you actually used one you would know.
Nothing? The iPad case makes a reasonable sun shade. Not great, but usable:
The real problem is that the iPad seems to overheat in the sun.
A transreflective LCD display, which reflects much of the heat, would have been soooooo nice.
Maybe when the iDesk (full size table top display) or iWall (wall size display) arrives from Apple...
Not in my opinion.
You've never actually used a transreflective colour LCD either?
They're not necessarily bad in bright sun or factory bright light conditions, but they're not fantastic the rest of the time.
However, the fatal flat is that they use sidelighting rather than backlighting, so especially on larger screens where an effective sidelight isn't possible, you won't end up with a fantastic screen. Any attempt at a backlight just makes the screen look washed out and pathetic.
I've used mine at a park on the edge of a beach already once and it worked fine. I wouldn't take it on a beach though, at least not until I can decide what is likely worse for the device, sand or water.
The brightness is reasonably adequate, brighter than most LCD panels, the trick is that instead of looking at it straight-on, tilt the device
5 degrees or so.
NavASS is full of s*it - as usual.
A 180 of whatever he says will lead to the truth.
Not on a computah. I've seen them on outdoor wide screen LCD TV screens. Unfortunately, I only saw them at a Best Buy store, which is indoors. I've also seen small demo displays for cell phones and TV's with transreflective displays, again indoors. However, I've never seen one outdoors.
Sigh. There's a domain and web pile for everything:
Oh-oh.
How large would you want to go? The ultra thin HDTV's with LED edge lighting seems bright enough (indoors) at the Best Buy and Costco store. However, I wasn't in the market for one and didn't pay much attention. I didn't think they looked much different from the CCFL backlit LCD panels. What did I miss?
My personal favorite display was a laptop with a detachable LCD display. The back lighting could be removed so that the display could be placed on an overhead projector for presentations. It could also be fitted with a reflective screen for outdoor use. Of course, a back lit CCFL lamp arrangement for indoor use. The big problem was that the frame around the LCD panel needed to be fairly large, to accommodate the needed circuitry. There was also about 0.5" unusable area around the edge for contact area. I forgot who made those see-through LCD displays, but I thought they would soon be commonplace. I was wrong.
Like an asshole, everyone has one. Yours is particularly inflated...
Both.
Works quite well now up to smartphone size, and I've seen larger engineering samples with similar performance.
That's too funny. Squinting probably helps too. ;)
Nope actually, it doesn't. Good try though.
Oh, yeah... Those tend to be a bit thicker to allow the sidelight to illuminate the entire screen from in front of the screen. What is ultra-thin for a TV or even a monitor might be too think for a iPad style tablet formfactor.
As I understand it, it's much harder to do it in an ultra-thin portable formfactor if the screen gets wider than an inch or two, unless you don't mind the center of the screen being darker.
Technology might have advanced around this problem, but from what little I can tell, we're not there (yet)
John Navas wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
Well, that's not quite true:
Not sure what the cops would think of you using it in a public park with little kids around, though....(c;]
Jeff Liebermann wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
Wow, wouldn't that be nice for a screened in porch overlooking the river!....hanging up over my Pawley's Island Rope Hammock, loaded with the latest DivX movies off usenet.....hmmm....
(John make a note of my brackets just for you....(c;]
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