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Posted by ritKoysu on July 28, 2004, 12:27 pm
Please log in for more thread options Verizon's "support" people only know how to set up Outlook Express. They said, and I quote: "We don't support READING news, only setting it up." My problem is that news.verizon.net apparently requires authentication, and my Verizon credentials, which work for everything else, like PPPoE connections, POP3 and SMTP, do not work at news.verizon.net. Verizon's "support" people say these credentials are the ones that work for news. Empirically, they do not work. Verizon has now left the universe. Anyway, this is what news.verizon.net has had to say, for the last week or so: $ telnet news.verizon.net 119 Trying 199.45.49.11... Connected to news.verizon.net. Escape character is '^]'. 200 This connection requires username/password authentication. (Tornado Backend v1.0.4.362) authinfo user ******** 381 More Authentication Required authinfo pass ******** 502 Authentication failed. Check your username & password. As for the instruction "Check your username & password," they say insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. --ritKoysu | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Alan on July 28, 2004, 5:17 pm
Please log in for more thread options connections. You can't telnet to it, nor should you need to. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by CharlesH on July 29, 2004, 1:33 am
Please log in for more thread options >You can only access the verizon news server from your DSL or Verizon Dial Up
>connections. You can't telnet to it, nor should you need to. NNTP, the protocol underlying Usenet service, is a textual protocol, like SMTP is for e-mail. You can telnet to a NNTP server on its port (119) and type NNTP commands. This is very useful for testing low-level access to the NNTP server, just as is telneting on port 25 to an SMTP server and typing in SMTP commands. All that news clients do is provide a more user-friendly interface to these NNTP commands. However, the Verizon news server may only accept connections from its own network (DSL or dialup); that is an entirely different matter. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Bert Hyman on July 29, 2004, 1:45 am
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> You can only access the verizon news server from your DSL or Verizon
> Dial Up connections. You can't telnet to it, nor should you need to. You can use a TELNET client to debug most any line-at-a-time server, like NNTP, SMTP or POP servers, by connecting to the appropriate port (119 for NNTP), typing in the client commands and reading the server's responses. The OP is correctly playing the role of an NNTP client and the server is telling him that the userid and/or password he's using aren't good (as far as it's concerned). If, as he says, he's using the same userid/password combo as for all other Verizon applications, this suggests that Verizon has configured their news server incorrectly, but can't seem to figure that out. >
>> I followed Verizon's instructions for access to newsgroups.
>> >> Verizon's "support" people only know how to set up Outlook Express. >> They said, and I quote: >> >> "We don't support READING news, only setting it up." >> >> My problem is that news.verizon.net apparently requires >> authentication, and my Verizon credentials, which work for everything >> else, like PPPoE connections, POP3 and SMTP, do not work at >> news.verizon.net. >> >> Verizon's "support" people say these credentials are the ones that >> work for news. Empirically, they do not work. Verizon has now left the >> universe. >> >> Anyway, this is what news.verizon.net has had to say, for the last >> week or so: >> >> $ telnet news.verizon.net 119 >> Trying 199.45.49.11... >> Connected to news.verizon.net. >> Escape character is '^]'. >> 200 This connection requires username/password authentication. >> (Tornado Backend v1.0.4.362) >> authinfo user ******** >> 381 More Authentication Required >> authinfo pass ******** >> 502 Authentication failed. Check your username & password. >> >> As for the instruction "Check your username & password," they say >> insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a >> different result. >> >> --ritKoysu >
> -- Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@visi.com | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by T. Sean Weintz on July 29, 2004, 4:15 pm
Please log in for more thread options Alan wrote:
> You can only access the verizon news server from your DSL or Verizon Dial Up
> connections. You can't telnet to it, nor should you need to. What planet do your news servers run on?!?!? If you telnet to port 119, the server has no way of knowing you are not actually using a news client. It does not know you are telnetting. It will not matter if he telnets to it. It should work regardless. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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>
> Verizon's "support" people only know how to set up Outlook Express.
> They said, and I quote:
>
> "We don't support READING news, only setting it up."
>
> My problem is that news.verizon.net apparently requires
> authentication, and my Verizon credentials, which work for everything
> else, like PPPoE connections, POP3 and SMTP, do not work at
> news.verizon.net.
>
> Verizon's "support" people say these credentials are the ones that
> work for news. Empirically, they do not work. Verizon has now left the
> universe.
>
> Anyway, this is what news.verizon.net has had to say, for the last
> week or so:
>
> $ telnet news.verizon.net 119
> Trying 199.45.49.11...
> Connected to news.verizon.net.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 200 This connection requires username/password authentication.
> (Tornado Backend v1.0.4.362)
> authinfo user ********
> 381 More Authentication Required
> authinfo pass ********
> 502 Authentication failed. Check your username & password.
>
> As for the instruction "Check your username & password," they say
> insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a
> different result.
>
> --ritKoysu