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Posted by mike3 on February 20, 2006, 8:59 pm
Please log in for more thread options Hi. Why is it that many ISPs, including those that supply DSL, forbid home servers? Especially curious about the DSL -- with all that bandwidth, why the nonos? Does it have something to do with the way the networks work (ie. a server would somehow rob bandwidth from other users?)? Does it have to do with greed -- to force you to pay w00h00 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for it? Does it have to do with security? If so, would a tough-like-a-mountain-secure server be okay or would you still be in hot water? And if it was still forbidden, why? Would it be because of other reasons still being applicable (like the bandwidth thing, or the greed)? I know the reasons would probably differ from ISP to ISP, but I'm courious about what it is, in general. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by David Efflandt on February 20, 2006, 9:40 pm
Please log in for more thread options Probably due to so many clueless Windows users failing to do security updates and unknowingly running an easily infected web server or opening infected e-mail, that in turn spreads those infections. There are still infected machines trying to spread the old Code Red and nimda worms. My ISP only blocks a few ports (related to MS Blaster worm, etc.), and not port 80. If I open my port 80 in my firewall, apache gets almost constantly hit by those infected Win boxes. So I resorted to a default virtual host that logs separately, and gets log rotated to the bit bucket. The only virtual hosts with any content are my no-ip.com names (dynamic DNS) that I mostly use privately. The worms can't find those. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by mike3 on February 21, 2006, 3:56 am
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David Efflandt wrote: > > Why is it that many ISPs, including those that supply DSL, forbid home
> > servers? Especially curious about the DSL -- with all that bandwidth, > > why the nonos?... >
> Probably due to so many clueless Windows users failing to do security > updates and unknowingly running an easily infected web server or opening > infected e-mail, that in turn spreads those infections. There are still > infected machines trying to spread the old Code Red and nimda worms. > So even if I had a super-secured server, would they still try and shut it down? > My ISP only blocks a few ports (related to MS Blaster worm, etc.), and not
> port 80. If I open my port 80 in my firewall, apache gets almost > constantly hit by those infected Win boxes. So I resorted to a default > virtual host that logs separately, and gets log rotated to the bit bucket. > The only virtual hosts with any content are my no-ip.com names (dynamic > DNS) that I mostly use privately. The worms can't find those. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Robert Redelmeier on February 21, 2006, 10:28 am
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> So even if I had a super-secured server, would they still
> try and shut it down? Might well, if they don't want to support the bandwidth it takes. A lot of the ISP is run by marketing, who think in terms of products and strongly avoid commoditization. -- Robert | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by David Schwartz on February 21, 2006, 2:06 pm
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> So even if I had a super-secured server, would they still try and shut
> it down? If it somehow came to their attention, they might feel they had to in because you're kind of thumbing your nose at them. My bet would be that, basically, they don't really care. However, you really shouldn't do business with a company that's not providing you the service option that you actually want. You'll be a lot happier when you're not doing something you agreed not to do. DS | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> servers? Especially curious about the DSL -- with all that bandwidth,
> why the nonos?...