Digital Subscriber Line Security Alarm Considerations

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Security Alarm Considerations Frankster 12-31-05
Posted by Frankster on December 31, 2005, 8:03 pm
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I'm about to install dsl into a home with a security alarm working off the
phone line. What do I need to consider? Do I need to install a filter just
like the ones that would go on each phone device? If so, where do I look
for the alarm system wire to install the filter?

Thanks,

-Frank



Posted by Kay Archer on January 1, 2006, 11:49 pm
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> I'm about to install dsl into a home with a security alarm working off the
> phone line. What do I need to consider? Do I need to install a filter
just
> like the ones that would go on each phone device? If so, where do I look
> for the alarm system wire to install the filter?
>

A. ask your alarm company.

B. have your dsl provider install a pots splitter

C. install your own pots splitter (should be instructions at
www.broadbandreports.com)

Take your choice.



Posted by Frankster on January 1, 2006, 8:25 pm
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If I install the dsl modem as usual, using filters only on the phone device,
before contacting the alarm company, what kind of behavior can I expect? I
would hope that the dsl circuit would work fine but would render the alarm
system ineffective until the proper alarm filter was installed. Is this
correct?

-Frank

>
>> I'm about to install dsl into a home with a security alarm working off
>> the
>> phone line. What do I need to consider? Do I need to install a filter
> just
>> like the ones that would go on each phone device? If so, where do I look
>> for the alarm system wire to install the filter?
>>
>
> A. ask your alarm company.
>
> B. have your dsl provider install a pots splitter
>
> C. install your own pots splitter (should be instructions at
> www.broadbandreports.com)
>
> Take your choice.
>
>



Posted by David Ross on January 2, 2006, 11:21 am
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Frankster wrote:

> If I install the dsl modem as usual, using filters only on the phone device,
> before contacting the alarm company, what kind of behavior can I expect? I
> would hope that the dsl circuit would work fine but would render the alarm
> system ineffective until the proper alarm filter was installed. Is this
> correct?

What alarms typically (and should) do is literally "seize the line" by
opening a relay between the outside connection and all internal
connections which allows it to hang up on any existing call before
calling the alarm company. Given this setup your best bet is to put a
DSL splitter/filter just after the NID (phone companies box) and split
the line into voice and data. But many alarm guys don't like this
because this allows something plugged into the "data" side to tie up the
line if things aren't done right or if equipment fails. So they want to
put their box ahead of the splitter. Which can degrade the DSL signals.
Two lines are the EASIEST way to resolve this. Or deal with an alarm
company that is reasonable and has equipment that will not muck up the DSL.

YMMV

Posted by David Schwartz on January 2, 2006, 1:44 pm
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> If I install the dsl modem as usual, using filters only on the phone
> device, before contacting the alarm company, what kind of behavior can I
> expect? I would hope that the dsl circuit would work fine but would
> render the alarm system ineffective until the proper alarm filter was
> installed. Is this correct?

There is really no way to know what will happen. There are a long list
of things that can go wrong.

By the way, having your alarm company install an alarm-specific DSL
filter is, IMO, one of the worst possible solutions. It still requires
passing the DSL signal into the alarm box, where it runs unshielded around
the alarm's circuit board.

DS



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