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Multiple broadband connection? Tyson 10-03-05
Posted by Tyson on October 3, 2005, 6:44 pm
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BillW50 Wrote:
> "Tyson" Tyson.1w32ab@news.broadbandbanter.com wrote in
message =
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:56:50 +0100
> -
> Im wondering is it possible to have two different broadband =-
> connections-
> using one phone line in one house? I dont wanna use a wireless router
> to share connections.-
>
> I never heard of that working. But you can use Home PNA on the same =
> phone line as DSL. As it using an existing phone line as a networking
> =

> bus. Thus no need for wireless. By the way, can I ask why you don't
> want =

> to go wireless? Security perhaps? If so, WPA encryption is pretty tough
> =

> to hack into.
>
> --=20
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> ______________________________________________
> Bill (using a HP 8655c & Windows 2000)
> --- written and edited with Outlook Express v6.00.2800.1123

I dont want to go wireless because my brother constantly downloading,
and it
effects the speed of it when i share the connections from it
using a router. I
was thinking one broadband for working and one for
entertainment such as
downloading and playing online PS2 games. So is
there any possible ways of using
two seperate broadband with one phone
line, if not, could you tell me why its
not possible to do so. Thx!


--
Tyson

Posted by Ken Abrams on October 3, 2005, 10:00 pm
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> So is
> there any possible ways of using two seperate broadband with one phone
> line, if not, could you tell me why its not possible to do so. Thx!
>

In a word, no.
For the same reason that pigs can't fly. It just doesn't work that way.

More specifically, nobody has yet designed any equipment that will do that.
The current equipment uses all of the available bandwidth for just one line.
It is possible, however, that newly discovered technology might make that
possible in the future. IMHO, that is not likely because I think there
would be a VERY limited market since a router works just fine in most
situations.

You probably could get your provider to bring in a second DSL, maybe even
without a second "voice" line.



Posted by Robert Redelmeier on October 3, 2005, 11:16 pm
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> I dont want to go wireless because my brother constantly
> downloading, and it effects the speed of it when i share
> the connections from it using a router.

Well, yes, it can. But if he's constantly downloading at full
bandwidth, I'll expect him to attract some very unpleasant
attention from your ISP. But this is unusual, and even then
only slows things down ~2x.

It's uploading that causes more trouble, more of the time.
A single unthrottled P2P filesharer can just hose out the
connection (Very high latency). Downloads stop even when
there's plenty of bandwidth because the ACKs can't get through.
A known problem on asymmetric links, and the easiest solution
is throttling upstream.

> I was thinking one broadband for working and one for
> entertainment such as downloading and playing online PS2
> games. So is there any possible ways of using two seperate
> broadband with one phone line, if not, could you tell me
> why its not possible to do so. Thx!

You cannot put 2 DSL circuits on one phoneline. No can do:
the frequencies are used by the first. But you can put two
DSL circuits on two different phone lines. Then you need a
rather fancier router, but fortunately you can roll-your own
with the Linux Router Project.

You will need to build and maintain routing tables that
shovel all the "entertainment" packets (by port and or addr)
out one interface.

-- Robert


Posted by John S. on October 5, 2005, 4:57 pm
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One phone line - one broadband connection. That is the way the technology is
designed.

Two phone lines - two broadband connections. Now that works.

>
> BillW50 Wrote:
>> "Tyson" Tyson.1w32ab@news.broadbandbanter.com wrote in message =
>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:56:50 +0100
>> -
>> Im wondering is it possible to have two different broadband =-
>> connections-
>> using one phone line in one house? I dont wanna use a wireless router
>> to share connections.-
>>
>> I never heard of that working. But you can use Home PNA on the same =
>> phone line as DSL. As it using an existing phone line as a networking
>> =
>> bus. Thus no need for wireless. By the way, can I ask why you don't
>> want =
>> to go wireless? Security perhaps? If so, WPA encryption is pretty tough
>> =
>> to hack into.
>>
>> --=20
>>
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> ______________________________________________
>> Bill (using a HP 8655c & Windows 2000)
>> --- written and edited with Outlook Express v6.00.2800.1123
>
> I dont want to go wireless because my brother constantly downloading,
> and it effects the speed of it when i share the connections from it
> using a router. I was thinking one broadband for working and one for
> entertainment such as downloading and playing online PS2 games. So is
> there any possible ways of using two seperate broadband with one phone
> line, if not, could you tell me why its not possible to do so. Thx!
>
>
> --
> Tyson



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