Digital Subscriber Line Beginner's Installation ?

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Beginner's Installation ? Howard Schwartz 05-21-06
Posted by Howard Schwartz on May 21, 2006, 11:05 am
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Forgive the naive prose, but I am trying to learn what I need to do for a
simple DSL installation. My ISP offers it, but they want to sell you a
``preconfigured'' dsl modem for $100. I've already got one, so they
told me ``all I need to do'' is set the modem to a bridge connection
and all will be well. The details:

a) I have Speedstream 5100 dsl modem, an early one I read can
only support bridge connections. Only an on/off button on it
*they call it I/O). It connects to an ethernet port.

b) My PC is an old IBM one with a 650Mhz cpu (fast enough for me)
and ethernet support built into the board and hardware.


I am told the most simple DSL connection requires that I get a crossover
instead of a straight through ethernet cable. Set up an ethernet lan
connection to my modem, and ``configure'' the modem for bridge connection.

I've been told there is a way to use my browser to configure the modem,
by surfing to the ip address of (my ISP's ?) router? I have not router
on my side.

Please advise or point me to literature about how to set up my connection
in windows and configure this modem.

Thanks in advance. I have consistently heard connection horror stories from
friends when they try to install dsl, and want to avoid as much frustration
as possible.

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Posted by Kay Archer on May 21, 2006, 7:18 pm
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> Forgive the naive prose, but I am trying to learn what I need to do for a
> simple DSL installation. My ISP offers it, but they want to sell you a
> ``preconfigured'' dsl modem for $100. I've already got one, so they
> told me ``all I need to do'' is set the modem to a bridge connection
> and all will be well. The details:
>
> a) I have Speedstream 5100 dsl modem, an early one I read can
> only support bridge connections. Only an on/off button on it
> *they call it I/O). It connects to an ethernet port.
>
5100 with 4 lights (power, ethernet, dsl, activity)=5100A is automatically
bridged. you will need a pppoe client (built in to windows xp, available
for others) or a pppoe capable router

5100 with 5 lights (power, ethernet, dsl, internet, activity)=5100B can be
bridged as above, but also has a built in pppoe client that can connect for
you.


> b) My PC is an old IBM one with a 650Mhz cpu (fast enough for me)
> and ethernet support built into the board and hardware.
>
ok there

>
> I am told the most simple DSL connection requires that I get a crossover
> instead of a straight through ethernet cable. Set up an ethernet lan
> connection to my modem, and ``configure'' the modem for bridge connection.
>
wrong, straight through only, no crossover. 5100b is most easily set to
bridge mode by tapping the reset button inside the bottom.


> I've been told there is a way to use my browser to configure the modem,
> by surfing to the ip address of (my ISP's ?) router? I have not router
> on my side.
>
the modem is acting as a router in this case (if it is the 5100B). if you
have a 5100A see note above about pppoe.


> Please advise or point me to literature about how to set up my connection
> in windows and configure this modem.
>
which windows and which modem (A or B)?


don't forget filters for the other devices on the phone line...



Posted by Howard Schwartz on May 21, 2006, 7:54 pm
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Heaven knows I tried to be clear with ``an early one can only support
bridge connections''. Did not work. But this phrase I meant 5100A with
only 4 lights. Translation, ``bridge only''.


>> a) I have Speedstream 5100 dsl modem, an early one I read can
>> only support bridge connections. Only an on/off button on it
>> *they call it I/O). It connects to an ethernet port.
>>
> 5100 with 4 lights (power, ethernet, dsl, activity)=5100A is
> automatically bridged. you will need a pppoe client (built in to
> windows xp, available for others) or a pppoe capable router

I do not understand this. My ISP tells me they support only a bridged
connection, not a pppoe one. Why then do I need the latter on the
client side? If I do need it, might I just as well buy a hub instead
of a router, so I can network my 2 pcs?

> 5100 with 5 lights (power, ethernet, dsl, internet, activity)=5100B
> can be bridged as above, but also has a built in pppoe client that can
> connect for you.

As mentioned, I do NOT have a 5100B speedstream, with a ppoe client.


>> I am told the most simple DSL connection requires that I get a
>> crossover instead of a straight through ethernet cable. Set up an
>> ethernet lan connection to my modem, and ``configure'' the modem for
>> bridge connection.
>>
> wrong, straight through only, no crossover.

Is this true, if, as my ISP told me, I just connect the phone jack to the
modem, and modem direct to the ethernet port on my PC? No router, no
hub in between.

> 5100b is most easily set
> to bridge mode by tapping the reset button inside the bottom.

Since I have a 5100A, with bridge only: Need I do nothing? Do you
mean, with a 5100B -- I remove the outer case revealing the circuit
board, and I will find a reset button inside?


>> I've been told there is a way to use my browser to configure the
>> modem, by surfing to the ip address of (my ISP's ?) router? I have
>> not router on my side.
>>
> the modem is acting as a router in this case (if it is the 5100B). if
> you have a 5100A see note above about pppoe.


Do not understand this. I only a pppoe client configurable, not
the modem itself?

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Posted by Kay Archer on May 22, 2006, 2:55 am
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> Heaven knows I tried to be clear with ``an early one can only support
> bridge connections''. Did not work. But this phrase I meant 5100A with
> only 4 lights. Translation, ``bridge only''.
>
[some snipped]
>
> I do not understand this. My ISP tells me they support only a bridged
> connection, not a pppoe one. Why then do I need the latter on the
> client side? If I do need it, might I just as well buy a hub instead
> of a router, so I can network my 2 pcs?
>
Are you using static or "sticky" IP addresses? What ISP? The one I am
familiar with (ATT) requires PPPoE on all connections (with the exception of
some legacy accounts, any change to those accounts and you must go PPPoE).

In the case of static IP addresses and no requirement for PPPoE, then a hub
could work.


[snipped 5100B info]
>
> >> I am told the most simple DSL connection requires that I get a
> >> crossover instead of a straight through ethernet cable. Set up an
> >> ethernet lan connection to my modem, and ``configure'' the modem for
> >> bridge connection.
> >>
> > wrong, straight through only, no crossover.
>
> Is this true, if, as my ISP told me, I just connect the phone jack to the
> modem, and modem direct to the ethernet port on my PC? No router, no
> hub in between.
>

with filters on all the other phone devices.


> > 5100b is most easily set
> > to bridge mode by tapping the reset button inside the bottom.
>
> Since I have a 5100A, with bridge only: Need I do nothing?

correct


Do you
> mean, with a 5100B -- I remove the outer case revealing the circuit
> board, and I will find a reset button inside?
>
the reset button is accessable (with a paper clip or other tool) without
opening the case

> >> I've been told there is a way to use my browser to configure the
> >> modem, by surfing to the ip address of (my ISP's ?) router? I have
> >> not router on my side.
> >>
only on the 5100B. the 5100A is a 'dumb' device

> > the modem is acting as a router in this case (if it is the 5100B). if
> > you have a 5100A see note above about pppoe.
>
>
> Do not understand this. I only a pppoe client configurable, not
> the modem itself?
>



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