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Two browser's, Firefox and dolphin, can't show web pages for wikipedia.ord, and some other websites I can't recall right now.

Opera can see all the websites. I've checked settings in both browser's and can't find what's causing the problem.

There doesn't seem to be an app on my phone for filtering websites. I thought it was my internet provider until I realized another phone and tablet aren't having this problem.

Any ideas?




Re: Wikipedia connection problems
On Fri, 26 May 2017 16:37:37 -0500, Mysterious Traveller wrote:

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I don't believe there's a new TLD ".ord"        :-)

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Yes.  Older browsers are fast being lost in the dust:
My results on an older browser:

 |Unable to load page
 |Problem occurred while loading the URL https://wikipedia.org/
 |SSL handshake failed: A TLS fatal alert has been received.

You could probably see more using "Live HTTP Headers" in firefox.

Websites are moving to higher and higher TLS security levels.

Oh for the days of gopher....
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Re: Wikipedia connection problems
On 26 May 2017, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.internet.wireless, in article

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No, but there certainly are enough to confuse the bewildered    ;-)

    http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/

[dawn ~]$ sed -n '/.aaa /,/Zimbabwe/p' < db | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort
 | uniq -c | column
    311 country-code                  1 infrastructure
   1224 generic                      15 sponsored
      3 generic-restricted           11 test
[dawn ~]$  

Long gone are the days of just _five_ generic domains (.com, .edu,
.gov, .mil, and .org) as defined in RFC0920 (October 1984).

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I'm still seeing a few firewall hits on 70/tcp - SOMEBODY didn't get
the word.    But we have WAIS to figure that out.  Maybe ask "archie"?

        Old guy

Re: Wikipedia connection problems
In alt.internet.wireless,
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Huh, I never knew of that document. RFC1591 (March 1994) adds the ever
popular .INT (popular as in not really used, except for nato.int) and
the country codes. That's the RFC I knew.

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Floodgap:
gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/

Has a Veronica:
gopher://gopher.floodgap.com:70/1/v2

But not an Archie. My recollection is Archie was for ftp searches. I
remember getting results by email. And wikipedia confirms my
recollections:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronica_ (search_engine)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_search_engine

Elijah
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Re: Wikipedia connection problems
On Tue, 30 May 2017, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.internet.wireless, in article


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Actually. ISO-3166 Country codes were part of RFC0920.   If you really
want to go back, have a look at RFC0819 from August 1982 - where there
was _one_ domain proposed - .arpa  (RFC0799 from September 1981 is one
of the earlier proposals - lots of hand-waving, not much concrete.)

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Was that a "whoosh-bird"?   WAIS (Wide Area Information Server) was one
of the first general search-engines - Try RFC1625.    Haven't seen
anyone stroking 210/tcp lately - so maybe they've given up on it.

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"Veronica" (Very Easy Rodent Oriented Net-wide Index to Computerized
Archives) was an index to gopher servers.

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Supposedly, there is still one out-there.  I'm not sure how useful it
might be (see the wonkypedia page).

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Way back then, there were a handful of systems out there, mainly
running on college servers (but that pre-supposed you had real-time
Internet access - many did not).  I used to access the one at unl.edu
via telnet - once you logged in (as user "archie") you could search
the local listings - which might lead you to another archie server
that had what you were looking for.     Wonder how many remember
servers like simtel20 or wuarchive, or the well-named "rtfm.mit.edu".
I used to have a weekly cron-job that connected to sunsite to grab a
copy of the /pub/linux/ls-lR.gz file (a recursive directory listing
created nightly) so I could 'zdiff' it to see "what's new".

        Old guy

Re: Wikipedia connection problems
On Sat, 27 May 2017 18:05:01 -0000 (UTC), Moe Trin

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    I remember using Archie and gopher a long time ago. But it
does not help the guy with the DNS problems ....
    There was even a service where you sent an email with the URL
and they sent you the archived webpage/file. Precious savings in the
days of dialup connections and downloads charged by kilobyte.
    Was that a Simtel thing ? Can't remember.
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Re: Wikipedia connection problems
On Wed, 31 May 2017, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.internet.wireless, in article

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That was one of the ways you could use Archie.    My first "home"
computer was an Osborne 1 (running CP/M which predates M/S DOS) and
came with an attached 300 baud modem.  I was lucky in that the dialin
server was a local call, but when the (local) storage media was a
single-sided single density (91 kb) floppy, you weren't downloading
for long (wow - it also had 64 k of RAM).

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Simtel20 was a mainframe at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico,
and it had _hundreds_ of free-ware and share-ware programs.  The
"wuarchive" was at Washington University in St. Louis, and also had a
huge amount of downloadable stuff - as did oakland.edu in Minnesota.

        Old guy

Re: [OT]Wikipedia connection problems
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 05:18:36 -0000 (UTC), Moe Trin

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    Wayback has a massive amount of those old collections with
direct download:

https://archive.org/search.php?query=BBS%20Software%20Collection

    They only go back to the 90's though(as far as I could see).
Look at the menu to the left.
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Re: Wikipedia connection problems
On Fri, 26 May 2017 16:37:37 -0500, "Mysterious Traveller"

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    Try

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

    It's gone https, BTW.
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    Maybe they redirect to the correct site.
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Webpage not available.

Connection problems only on this phone.



Re: Wikipedia connection problems
On Sat, 27 May 2017 21:13:59 -0500, "Mysterious Traveller"

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    Try pinging it:

    ping en.wikipedia.org

    It should respond with a much larger interval than

    ping localhost

    > 200ms vs < 1ms on my machine

    If timing is identical, check your hosts file. If it does not
respond check your DNS has not been compromised.
    []'s

    PS You never said where you live. Maybe your country blocks
it. Crazy happens.
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Re: Wikipedia connection problems


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Pinged en.wikipedia.org, responded host not found.

Pinged google.com, it found Google and showed milliseconds.

How do I check host file on Android phone.

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Re: Wikipedia connection problems
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"Host not found" indicates a DNS lookup problem.
A few moments ago, DNS said
        en.wikipedia.org  208.80.154.224

[It also says www.wikipedia.org has the same address.]

Try  "ping 208.80.154.224".  I'm guessing that'll work,

Unfortunately, although "https://208.80.154.224/wiki/Main_Page " will get
something, it doesn't get the main page you're trying to reach.  Their
server appears to require the domain name (presumably in the usually
invisible Host: header field derived from the URL, so that the server
can tell whether you wanted www. , en. , or some other prefix).

If ping of the address works, look into the DNS server problem.
 -WBE

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