What use is WiFi on a Costco Viso TV?

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What use is WiFi on a TV screen?

A relative of mine called, who was told "something" by Costco, that their  
Visio TVs have WiFi and therefore she wouldn't need the "box" whatever  
that is.

I don't have cable, nor even a TV, but I suspect that "box" is something  
that was added when they switched from Analog to Digital (or maybe it's a  
descrambler).

They said they have to pay the cable company for a second box (the first  
one is free), so, it's not a modem (because you'd only need one modem).

Anyway, my basic question, for you, is "what use is WiFi in a TV"?

Note that I can easily see that bluetooth is useful, since you can then  
use that TV with a keyboard; but what good is WiFi in a TV screen at home?

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so you can connect to the internet and watch Youtube, netflix, etc.  



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On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 04:47:02 -0700, taxed and spent wrote:

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Maybe I don't understand. Actually, I don't understand.

To watch youtube, you need a browser, which is usually a program compiled  
for a certain computer, which runs a certain operating system, and which  
has a certain byte order and memory structure and a whole bunch of other  
things associated with a "computer".

Is the TV acting as a "computer"?
If so, what operating system is the TV?

What browser does it use?
What architecture is that TV browser compiled for?


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The newer smart TVs have their own built in inerface .  Maybe you have heard  
of the devices like ROKU or the one from Amazon.  Anyway it lets the TV  
connect to the internet so if you have say Direct TV you can get movies and  
other shows on demand bystreaming off the internet.  I don't know what  
system they use,but my TV lets me surf the web.  It is awful slow to do with  
the remote,but I think I could hook up a mouse and keyboard to it if I  
wanted to.  



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On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:21:58 -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:

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I don't have direct tv.  
My router does not have a coax input.

I thought that was a coax cable coming out of all those direct tv  
antennas I see on houses.

If the output of Direct TV is coax, how does that coax get "into" your  
network?

It can't go through the router.  
How does it get into your router without a coax connector on the router?


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A DirecTV box has multiple "outputs". HDMI, component, etc.

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The DirecTV boxes I've had all had an ethernet connection that I
plugged my home network into. I think some of the newer boxes also
have wireless capability, or maybe they provide a separate device to
connect wirelessly. The coax that you see is from the Dish  (actually
from the LNB) to the DirecTV box. The DirecTV box takes care of the
connection to the internet. It works kind of like the other devices
that connect to the internet via your home network. I also have a
Blu-Ray player and it connects to the home network via ethernet also.

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On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 17:57:53 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

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Oh. That explains it!

So, the coax cable that comes out of the dish on the roof then goes into  
a "box" which has, as outputs, either coax or RJ45 or a wifi antenna?

Is that correct?


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Well, the main outputs of a direcTV box are designed to send a signal
to a TV, so they are the HDMI and the video and audio to the TV or a
monitor. The Ethernet is just an addition.... there so you can get
internet access for streaming "stuff" from their web. There's also (on
my box) an eSATA port so I can connect an external drive, and a USB
port that I've never seen any reason to use. If there is a coax output
I've never used it, but I did notice am S-Video port which I've also
never used. I've never seen a WiFi connection, but then I don't use
WiFi I use wired connections to connect to the direcTV boxes.

Re: What use is WiFi on a Costco Viso TV?
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:49:10 -0400, gfretwell wrote:

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I guess a USB wired mouse and keyboard would be useful.

Do most of these WiFi TVs have the ability to accept a typical USB mouse  
and keyboard?


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On Thu, 3 Sep 2015, Ewald B=F6hm wrote:

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And a tv set has become a computer.  They needed a CPU to handle the data=
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conversion, so they might as well allow it to be used as a more general=20
purpose computer.

Both my DTV sets run Linux.  A subset, but it's there.

My blu-ray player runs Linux too, as does my TomTom One GPS.  It's free,=20
and yet provides a full OS for building on top of.

   Michael

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On 9/3/2015 10:38 AM, Michael Black wrote:

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  Ya, so now you get to wait for it to boot up every time you turn it on.



                                    Mikek


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If I turn on my TV and computer at the same time, the TV barely beats
the computer at booting.
It takes 17.86 seconds for the picture/sound to show up for the TV.
  

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On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 08:00:11 -0500, Vic Smith

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BTW, that's a hard-wired HD TV attached to a basic cable box not
providing HD.

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alt.home.repair:  

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No, you don't. You just need an interface that will display Youtube  
content. It's included with a smart TV.

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That's all included in your smart TV.

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Yes.


I assume it's some customized version of Linux, but it doesn't matter  
unless you're planning to hack it. Normally you're given a user  
interface that will allow you access to the features built into the  
smart TV, which will include apps to access Internet content providers  
like Youtube, Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, and others. It may also include  
some games and other miscellaneous stuff. It may even include a web  
browser (mine does, but it works poorly.)  

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In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 03 Sep 2015 17:33:08 -0400, Nil

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So what do you have that works poorl?.  I was particularly interested in
having a browser (more than having Netflix.)   so I want to avoid what
you have, if any other browser works better, that is.  

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Stumpy Strumpet
  the bimbus
for dogcatcher

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alt.home.repair:  

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I don't know what it's called, it's just whatever was included with my  
Samsung TV. It's deadly slow slow slow, and navigation with the TV  
remote is painful. I tried hooking up a USB keyboard, but it didn't  
work and I haven't bothered to try to troubleshoot it, since it's  
nothing I'm interested in using. If I want to browse the web I'll just  
use one of the several other computer devices in the house.  

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In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 03 Sep 2015 18:36:31 -0400, Nil

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Okay, I can remember Samsung.  Thanks.  

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Stumpy Strumpet
  the bimbus
for dogcatcher

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On 9/3/2015 7:01 PM, micky wrote:
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   I have a Sony, and it's slow too!


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In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 4 Sep 2015 07:47:23 -0500, amdx

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Okay.  I can remember that too.  But I'm getting discouraged.  

I think I should follow Mark Lloyd's advice in next thread about using
wires when one can.  

So I think I'll just get a USB active extension cord and a
keyboard/mouse to plug into it;, and an AV balun with cat6 to connect
the computer to the DVDR


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--  

Stumpy Strumpet
  the bimbus
for dogcatcher

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On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 18:03:13 -0400, micky wrote:

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Do I understand the situation correctly that the WiFi enabled TVs are dog  
slow, for example, at browsing, because of two fundamental flaws?

1. The CPUs are slow, and,  
2. Using a remote to type URLs is slow.

You can't fix the CPU processing power.  
But, can you simply add a standard bluetooth keyboard?


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