Potential sniffer plane (N168DK)

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This was orbiting over Oakland today for three hours. It does appear to have  
more antennas than usual for a C182.  

Re: Potential sniffer plane (N168DK)
miso wrote, on Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:50:20 -0800:

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That's interesting miso, because I was driving on I580 today
when I checked my tower signals and something weird showed up  
for the cell tower id number.

This was probably something like 20 miles from Oakland or so:
http://i58.tinypic.com/15yynus.png

Re: Potential sniffer plane (N168DK)
James P. Doolittle wrote:

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No LAC or CID is interesting. What time was this?

BTW, if you noticed, that photo was from Arizona. These DOJ planes seem to  
move around the country. Trouble is the DOJ has been flying Cessnas for  
years, so they can't all be dirt boxes.

I guess I need to compile my list of surveillance planes and we can start  
looking at antennas.


Re: Potential sniffer plane (N168DK)
miso wrote, on Wed, 26 Nov 2014 22:20:05 -0800:

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I was there for a while, so, it was over a period of  
hours. This one reading was early in the morning.

But I had similar readings later in the day.

I wasn't able to determine if the LAC & CID returned,  
but, for the past week or so, I've been checking,  
and this was the first time with no LAC & CID.

The weird thing is that the carrier was known, so,  
that's not something I'd expect of the feds.

Re: Potential sniffer plane (N168DK)
James P. Doolittle wrote:

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They have to spoof the carrier (T-Mobile) else your phone won't connect. I'm  
not sure if they have to spoof everything. I would need to watch  
Chris/Kristen's Pagets video again, but I think he just filled in junk for  
the tower data.

Incidentally, I loaded
https://github.com/SecUpwN/Android-IMSI-Catcher-Detector/wiki

Kind of sluggish operation, but it does log towers. I haven't set up a  
OpencellID account, but I think the program will just check the database  
that it creates on your phone.


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I see the LAC isn't listed for LTE on my app,

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miso wrote:

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Never mind, I booted and the LAC showed up.

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Mysteriously, that image link in the previous post of N168DK is no longer on  
the internet. Not that I suspect some three letter agency got wind of the  
post.  

You can find the image here:
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You might want to save a copy on your PC.




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    It's gone again. This time they put a sign up.
    "This image is unavailable"
    In 8 different languages.
    []'s
--  
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy  - Google 2012

Re: Potential sniffer plane (N168DK)
Shadow wrote:

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Yep!
What me paranoid?

The trouble is nothing dies on the internet, but a plane photo doesn't  
bounce around the interwebs as much as a topless selfie. I could upload the  
photo someplace, but it is copyrighted.  

The trouble with the DOJ is they use civilian airports, so it is hard for  
their assets not to be photographed. For example, let's say the FBI uses  
Hayward airport (cough cough)......


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Wayback machine?
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Flickr doesn't show up on archive.org, other than some advert for the  
service.  

N879WM was flying orbits over Oakland today, starting around 10AM. This is a  
known FBI plane based on the Jena callsign:
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It used Hayward airport.
  
Let us see if this photo disappears.  


Re: Potential sniffer plane (N168DK)
miso wrote:

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisk48/8431413752/in/photostream/lightbox/
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Here are two planes that could have sniffers.  

This is registered to the San Mateo county sheriff department, but it gets  
loaned to the feds. It isn't a 182 however.
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=51hf


Orbits over Oakland and San Jose.  
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=301a

Hey hey hey, look at N301A:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cessna_208B_N301A_%284994242088%29.jpg

When the CIA was flying surveillance aircraft over Columbia, they put  
sniffer gear in the cargo bay. After a number of crashes, they went to twin  
engine aircraft. But a Cessna Caravan would be fine for domestic  
surveillance.

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http://www.aviation.wv.gov/aircraft/Documents/Cessna%20208B%20Grand%20Caravan.pdf



Re: Potential sniffer plane (N168DK)
N168DK doing orbits over Oakland 11/28/2014 starting around 11AM. Altitude  
4500ft. It would be hard to spot by eye unless you are observant.


Re: Potential sniffer plane (N168DK)
miso wrote:

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Surveillance over at 1:19PM

These dirt boxes can't be stealing IMSIs for hours on end without people  
noticing. Maybe they run intermittently.  

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