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? for Jeff L. Lloyd E. Sponenburgh 09-19-08
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Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on September 19, 2008, 7:36 pm
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Jeff,

You (although you're nearly as old as I am) seem to really have your
finger on the pulse of available networking gear.

I'm looking for a low-cost solution to stream 1080p over ethernet
cabling.

I'd (probably, unless you think not) prefer to have an IP solution,
but if there's a low-cost balun solution available, I have some
dedicated (well, dedicatable) runs in the plenum to do it.

The distance is less than 30 meters.

LLoyd

Posted by Jeff Liebermann on September 19, 2008, 8:30 pm
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:36:04 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:

>Jeff,

Huh? yawn...errr...ah...ummm... yes?

>You (although you're nearly as old as I am) seem to really have your
>finger on the pulse of available networking gear.

Nope. I'm in the repair business this week. Because I only see
broken equipment and bugs, I know everything there is to know about
things that DON'T work. It's kinda like asking an auto repair shop
what car to buy. Find out what cars they work on, and then buy
something else.

>I'm looking for a low-cost solution to stream 1080p over ethernet
>cabling.

I can't help you. I've never done that, never tried that, few of my
customers are doing that, and the one's that are doing it, are all
video pirates. You sould do better in the video forums (fora?).

>I'd (probably, unless you think not) prefer to have an IP solution,
>but if there's a low-cost balun solution available, I have some
>dedicated (well, dedicatable) runs in the plenum to do it.
>
>The distance is less than 30 meters.

Ummm... what manner of connector or interface is your HDTV using? My
guess(tm) would be HDMI. CAT5 is nothing more than 110 ohm cable. No
need for IP unless you wanna do it over the internet. For that, get a
Streambox or similar device. You'll need an active device to do the
job:
<http://www.svideo.com/videobalun1.html>
<http://www.svideo.com/ext-hdtv-cat5.html>
<http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/16/honeywell-intros-hdmi-over-cat5-in-wall-baluns/>
Lots more... Google for "HDMI over CAT5".

This might be worth reading (I don't know because I didn't read it):
<http://tech.yahoo.com/gd/accessing-hdtv-over-your-home-network/2990>

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Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on September 20, 2008, 6:46 am
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....
> This might be worth reading (I don't know because I didn't read it):
> <http://tech.yahoo.com/gd/accessing-hdtv-over-your-home-
network/2990>
>

Thanks, Jeff. My primary reason for wanting to transmit via IP was so
that the signal would not suffer losses beyond those inherent in the
encoding scheme if the link changed length, number of 'hops' (junction
boxes, in this case), etc. In reality, I don't often touch things
that are working right; so it probably wouldn't change.

The reason for wanting to do it via CAT5 is just to get all the
"junk" remote from the wall-hung HD panel. Ideally, it'll all be in a
small pivoting credenza between our two lazy chairs.

LLoyd

Posted by Jeff Liebermann on September 20, 2008, 12:21 pm
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:46:19 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:

>Thanks, Jeff. My primary reason for wanting to transmit via IP was so
>that the signal would not suffer losses beyond those inherent in the
>encoding scheme if the link changed length, number of 'hops' (junction
>boxes, in this case), etc.

Ummm... HDMI is digital, not analog. See description at:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI>
As long as you don't destroy the digital information in some creative
way, what comes out is exactly the same as what went in.

More on extending HDMI. See links at bottom of page:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI_Extender>

>In reality, I don't often touch things
>that are working right; so it probably wouldn't change.

There's a Canadian comedy show on TV called The Red Green Show. One
of the better quotes is "If it ain't broke, you're not trying". My
version of Learn By Destroying is that if you haven't destroyed it and
repaired it, you don't understand how it works.

>The reason for wanting to do it via CAT5 is just to get all the
>"junk" remote from the wall-hung HD panel. Ideally, it'll all be in a
>small pivoting credenza between our two lazy chairs.

Ummm.... I don't understand. HDTV is the latest in high tech and has
a few years to go before it will be replaced by something better and
considered "junk". Anyway, I don't understand what you're trying to
accomplish.

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Posted by Stephen on September 20, 2008, 4:20 pm
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wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:46:19 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
><lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Jeff. My primary reason for wanting to transmit via IP was so
>>that the signal would not suffer losses beyond those inherent in the
>>encoding scheme if the link changed length, number of 'hops' (junction
>>boxes, in this case), etc.
>
>Ummm... HDMI is digital, not analog. See description at:
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI>
>As long as you don't destroy the digital information in some creative
>way, what comes out is exactly the same as what went in.
>
>More on extending HDMI. See links at bottom of page:
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI_Extender>
>
>>In reality, I don't often touch things
>>that are working right; so it probably wouldn't change.
>
>There's a Canadian comedy show on TV called The Red Green Show. One
>of the better quotes is "If it ain't broke, you're not trying". My
>version of Learn By Destroying is that if you haven't destroyed it and
>repaired it, you don't understand how it works.
>
>>The reason for wanting to do it via CAT5 is just to get all the
>>"junk" remote from the wall-hung HD panel. Ideally, it'll all be in a
>>small pivoting credenza between our two lazy chairs.
>
>Ummm.... I don't understand. HDTV is the latest in high tech and has
>a few years to go before it will be replaced by something better and
>considered "junk". Anyway, I don't understand what you're trying to
>accomplish.

anyone for Super Hi-vision (4320 line TV)?

i saw the demo at IBC last week in Amsterdam
www.ibc.org

unbelieveable video quality but at least a long way from general use
http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=KCD1TO2SQMGGUQSNDLRSKH0CJUNN2JVN?articleID=210601412&pgno=1
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