ALERT: WPA can be less secure than WEP

SUMMARY:

WPA-PSK is vulnerable to attack, and can be even worse than WEP!

TO AVOID THE PROBLEM:

USE A PASSPHRASE WITH MORE THAN 20 CHARACTERS. Examples: BAD: "vintage wine" GOOD: "floor hiking dirt ocean" (pick your own words, even longer is better)

BACKGROUND:

Weakness in Passphrase Choice in WPA Interface By Glenn Fleishman By Robert Moskowitz Senior Technical Director ICSA Labs, a division of TruSecure Corp

... The offline PSK dictionary attack ... Just about any 8-character string a user may select will be in the dictionary. As the standard states, passphrases longer than 20 characters are needed to start deterring attacks. This is considerably longer than most people will be willing to use.

This offline attack should be easier to execute than the WEP attacks. ... Using Random values for the PSK

The PSK MAY be a 256-bit (64 hexadecimal) random number. This is a large number for human entry; 20 character passphrases are considered too long for entry. Given the nature of the attack against the 4-Way Handshake, a PSK with only 128 bits of security is really sufficient, and in fact against current brute-strength attacks, 96 bits SHOULD be adequate. This is still larger than a large passphrase ... ... Summary ... Pre-Shared Keying is provided in the standard to simplify deployments in small, low risk, networks. The risk of using PSKs against internal attacks is almost as bad as WEP. The risk of using passphrase based PSKs against external attacks is greater than using WEP. Thus the only value PSK has is if only truly random keys are used, or for deploy testing of basic WPA or 802.11i functions. PSK should ONLY be used if this is fully understood by the deployers.

See also: Passphrase Flaw Exposed in WPA Wireless Security

Wi-Fi Protected Access. Security in pre-shared key mode

Cracking Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA)

WPA Cracker

Reply to
John Navas
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You post this every week. Why not just put the article in the wiki and post that link each week, at least then we'd not all have to continually get our a*ses bored off with YANP. Mark McIntyre

Reply to
Mark McIntyre
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Nope. Twice a month.

Because my life is more interesting than yours.

Reply to
John Navas

Which is still about six times a year more often than you need to. If its frequently required info, put it in the FAQ for crying out loud.

Also I've been reading this group for many moons now, and until recently your posts were not wasting bandwidth. Why the sudden sanctiomoniousness?

I sincerely doubt that. Anyone anal enough to post the same message over and over probably has very little life to become interesting.

And I notice that rather than answer my question, you choose to post ridicule.

And lets bear in mind you started first with the insults. Mark McIntyre

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Mark McIntyre
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The process is automated.

How childish.

Reply to
John Navas

It would appear not, given you have to post this crap so often, you mist be bored out of your mind or once would be enough.

fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.

Reply to
Rico

Childish is spamming the newsgroup with this mess all the time, an adult would be satisfied with once or maybe once in a while a link to the wiki. But childish is what you are currently doing and the fact you have to be told.

fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.

Reply to
Rico

Since when was that an excuse? You sound like a bank clerk "I'm sorry sir, the computer is never wrong".

Childish is spamming the NG, and insulting those who ask you to stop. Mark McIntyre

Reply to
Mark McIntyre

That's not happening.

I disagree.

Reply to
John Navas
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Not an excuse -- just a correction.

I'm doing neither. And you? ;)

Reply to
John Navas

We'll just have to agree to disagree. Get back to us when you've actually made any sort of real contribution to this newsgroup. ;)

Reply to
John Navas

You've posted before you do this with a bot, you do it over and over again as you have said, that pretty effectively defines spamming.

That is because you are the one behaving childishly, if you agreed, you wouldn't need to be told.

fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.

Reply to
Rico

(I said)

I've no doubt the idiots who post get rich quick schemes also think of their stuff as non-spam. They're wrong too.

Me? I'm killfiling you and any thread you appear in.

One assumes the purpose of your posting was to inform. I'm wondering when you will realise you're having the reverse effect. But hey, you apparently don't care, after an absence of some months you showed up again here in late November and started spamming, having apparently p*ssed off people in other groups such as rec.photos.*, rec.video.*, alt.cellular.* in the meantime, so it seems unlikely you'll see you're not being helpful. Mark McIntyre

Reply to
Mark McIntyre

You might want to consider the same point yourself. Were it not for my responses to your spam and / or rude postings, my score would be quite high. Fortunately you're in my bitbucket from this post on, so I may return to a quiet life. Mark McIntyre

Reply to
Mark McIntyre
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Knock yourself out.

Reply to
John Navas
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For starters see the FAQ, which was written mostly by me. And you?

Reply to
John Navas

Well john, no one has disputed that you have an excessively large ego, the question has been and remains why you spam the very group you wrote a FAQ for. But then, I think your post above explains all.

fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.

Reply to
Rico

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