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Wireless, etc., from house to garage, part deux myadmin1 03-05-08
Posted by on March 5, 2008, 4:18 pm
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Hi all, been a while but just to go back for a minute....

I had a post regarding the best way to get my wireless service from my
house to my garage a while back, and figured I wouldn't resurrect an
old thread.

Basically, what I've decided to do is, have my cable tv/internet/
telephone provider come out and just do an underground service run
from the house to the garage. The garage is all hard wired w/cable
and network cable, so I should be good and secure as far as being
hardwired for TV, internet ,etc.

One question remains ... w/this service hardwired to the garage, I
know that I should just be able to plug a computer into a network jack
and have internet access .... however, I'm not looking for hardwired
internet, I'd like to have wireless for my laptop. If I plug in a
wireless router or WAP into a jack on the garage side of things, will
it just automatically broadcast my signal, or will I have to give it
certain settings that mimic my cable company's wireless router
(Verizon FIOS) ... and no, I don't want to just do the parabolic
antenna thing, been there, done that :-)

I don't really know anything about this. It probably makes sense to
you guys, but I guess what I'm trying to say is this: I have wired
and wireless access @ the main house. I'm running cable, etc., to the
garage and will have wired internet there ... what do I plug into a
jack to broadcast my wireless w/in the garage?

Thanks.


Posted by Bill Kearney on March 5, 2008, 6:22 pm
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> (Verizon FIOS)

If you have a coax run pulled out the garage you could use a MoCa device
(motorola NIM-100). It's a converter from coax to 100BaseT ethernet. Put
one of them on an APPROPRIATE splitter (fios needs higher freqs) and it
should be able to connect to the Actiontec router they'll provide. That's
how the settop boxes get their Video On Demand connectivity. They've got a
MoCa ethernet over coax device built into them. Then you'd just hang an
access point off the NIM-100.

-Bill Kearney


Posted by on March 6, 2008, 2:49 pm
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> > (Verizon FIOS)
>
> If you have a coax run pulled out the garage you could use a MoCa device
> (motorola NIM-100). It's a converter from coax to 100BaseT ethernet. Put
> one of them on an APPROPRIATE splitter (fios needs higher freqs) and it
> should be able to connect to the Actiontec router they'll provide. That's
> how the settop boxes get their Video On Demand connectivity. They've got a
> MoCa ethernet over coax device built into them. Then you'd just hang an
> access point off the NIM-100.
>
> -Bill Kearney

Thank you.

I can't just plug a WAP (or something?) into a Cat5 jack in the garage
and mess w/some settings for it to just broadcast the signal
wirelessly? (sp?)

Posted by on March 6, 2008, 3:42 pm
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On Mar 6, 2:49 pm, myadm...@verizon.net wrote:
>
> > > (Verizon FIOS)
>
> > If you have a coax run pulled out the garage you could use a MoCa device
> > (motorola NIM-100). It's a converter from coax to 100BaseT ethernet. Put
> > one of them on an APPROPRIATE splitter (fios needs higher freqs) and it
> > should be able to connect to the Actiontec router they'll provide. That's
> > how the settop boxes get their Video On Demand connectivity. They've got a
> > MoCa ethernet over coax device built into them. Then you'd just hang an
> > access point off the NIM-100.
>
> > -Bill Kearney
>
> Thank you.
>
> I can't just plug a WAP (or something?) into a Cat5 jack in the garage
> and mess w/some settings for it to just broadcast the signal
> wirelessly? (sp?)

Piggybacking my own reply, sorry....

Just did some research on the Nim100, seems pretty straight forward,
I'll look on the auction sites for one since they don't seem to
sell them via retail outlets.

Looks like I'll have garage-cable out to a "good" splitter
(suggestions?), then the splitter out 1 to TV and 1 to Nim100, then I
suppose there is a simple RJ45 jack on the NIM100 that I'll plug my
WAP or wireless router into (does it matter? I have both). Then I
should be good to go wirelessly?

And, even though this is a separate building, the COAX is all tied
into the same ActionTec in the main house so the NIM in the garage and
the ATec will be chatting away?

Thanks

Posted by Peter Pan on March 6, 2008, 6:25 pm
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myadmin1@verizon.net wrote:
> On Mar 6, 2:49 pm, myadm...@verizon.net wrote:
>>
>>>> (Verizon FIOS)
>>
>>> If you have a coax run pulled out the garage you could use a MoCa
>>> device (motorola NIM-100). It's a converter from coax to 100BaseT
>>> ethernet. Put one of them on an APPROPRIATE splitter (fios needs
>>> higher freqs) and it should be able to connect to the Actiontec
>>> router they'll provide. That's how the settop boxes get their
>>> Video On Demand connectivity. They've got a MoCa ethernet over
>>> coax device built into them. Then you'd just hang an access point
>>> off the NIM-100.
>>
>>> -Bill Kearney
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> I can't just plug a WAP (or something?) into a Cat5 jack in the
>> garage and mess w/some settings for it to just broadcast the signal
>> wirelessly? (sp?)
>
> Piggybacking my own reply, sorry....
>
> Just did some research on the Nim100, seems pretty straight forward,
> I'll look on the auction sites for one since they don't seem to
> sell them via retail outlets.
>
> Looks like I'll have garage-cable out to a "good" splitter
> (suggestions?), then the splitter out 1 to TV and 1 to Nim100, then I
> suppose there is a simple RJ45 jack on the NIM100 that I'll plug my
> WAP or wireless router into (does it matter? I have both). Then I
> should be good to go wirelessly?
>
> And, even though this is a separate building, the COAX is all tied
> into the same ActionTec in the main house so the NIM in the garage and
> the ATec will be chatting away?
>
> Thanks

Not sure where you are, what package you have, or what they provide for you
at your location, but here in the baltimore md area the fios comes to the
utility room, where the actiontec is, and goes into that, and the outputs
from that are cable (goes to the cable in the house), and the phone goes to
the phone box and therefore the house.. while we can get non on demand
stuff/less than channel 100 at all the outlets (so the old TV's and Tivo's
still work), at each HDTV we have scientific atlanta boxes that give us the
digital channels, and another modem (hooked to the cable and a wap/router,
we in effect have two wireless networks, one from the actiontec and the
second from when we had cable) for the internet stuff.... we just don't use
the one from the actiontec at all... We did have to change the splitters on
our existing cable to the one that do the 1ghz (same as sat) to allow the
digital/HD/on demand stuff to pass (not sure if you need it for HD or not,
but HD only works from the digital channels/boxes, and they are needed for
the digital boxes)....

From some of the words in your description above, it sounds like you may
have something similar (ie theres coax to the garage, rather than fiber) and
the actiontecs wireless comes before the fios signal is converted to cable
and phone, therefore needing an additional cable modem/boxes for the
digital/hd signal.....



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