Wireless Networking Wireless Signal Boosting from One House to Another

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Wireless Signal Boosting from One House to Another mach7 06-24-08
Posted by mach7 on June 24, 2008, 11:06 pm
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I live in the boonies. Neither DSL nor cable is available, so I've
been rockin dialup for a decade. My neighbor, who is a relative, has
recently purchased a satellite broadband service. He's offered to
share it with us if we can work out a way to boost the signal. Here's
the setup: he's on the ridge of a hill about 500m away from my house.
There are lots of trees and other shrubberies between us, but no other
hills (i.e. if there were no trees, there would be line of sight).

Is it possible to share the service? If so, what kind of hardware do
we need (e.g. wireless amplifier / antenna / booster / repeater)?
What frequency, power rating, radiation pattern, etc? If someone has
solved a similar problem, how did you do it?

Thanks,
-J

Posted by seaweedsl on June 26, 2008, 7:15 pm
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Hi. Somebody may come along with info on alternative frequencies that
will penetrate trees, but the common 2.4 ghz B,G and N will not.

Is a mast or something to get over the trees possible?

By the way, we share a sat signal and I can tell you that once you get
the signal, you will want to upgrade the service plan to a higher
level if two homes are sharing. There are strict download limits that
need to be understood and respected. The higher the plan, the higher
the limits.


Steve

Posted by Bill Kearney on June 27, 2008, 7:05 pm
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>I live in the boonies. Neither DSL nor cable is available, so I've
> been rockin dialup for a decade. My neighbor, who is a relative, has
> recently purchased a satellite broadband service. He's offered to
> share it with us if we can work out a way to boost the signal. Here's
> the setup: he's on the ridge of a hill about 500m away from my house.
> There are lots of trees and other shrubberies between us, but no other
> hills (i.e. if there were no trees, there would be line of sight).
>
> Is it possible to share the service? If so, what kind of hardware do
> we need (e.g. wireless amplifier / antenna / booster / repeater)?
> What frequency, power rating, radiation pattern, etc? If someone has
> solved a similar problem, how did you do it?

Without direct, clear, year-round line of sight you're not going to do it.
At least not inexpensively, certainly more than the cost of just getting
your own sat service.

Then there's the legal question of his satellite contract specifically
preventing this sort of thing.

My sympathies on the dial-up though, that's gotta suck.


Posted by seaweedsl on June 28, 2008, 3:32 pm
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> Then there's the legal question of his satellite contract specifically
> preventing this sort of thing.

Perhaps reselling, but not sharing. Our service with Hughes was sold
(biz account) for use with up to eight pcs. I don't think it's their
concern as to how you network those together. Most Hughes latin
america accounts feed internet cafes. Not a problem.

I thought that Jeff or somebody had mentioned lower frequency systems
that do work through trees to some extent.

You might consider running up to 150 meters of ethernet cable to a
remote client adapter mounted on a pole attached to a tree. You could
do this on both ends and perhaps get line of sight or nearly so.
Consider "rootennas" for the antenna enclosures. Long pvc, bamboo or
steel pipe for masts. Power over ethernet for remote device.

Getting your own sat is perhaps the easiest approach, but it's far
cheaper for two to share an premium $90-$100 account than each to use
the wimpy $70 account. And that difference in cost and performance
will be noticable every month for years.

But if you have several pcs in your home or closeby, then get your own
system for your local network.

Posted by Bill Kearney on June 29, 2008, 11:11 am
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> Perhaps reselling, but not sharing. Our service with Hughes was sold
> (biz account) for use with up to eight pcs. I don't think it's their
> concern as to how you network those together. Most Hughes latin
> america accounts feed internet cafes.

How you business service is contracted is likely to be different than
residential. To say nothing of the differences in other countries.
Calling it "sharing" doesn't make it contractually legitimate. As for cafe
use, I'm guessing more are illegitimate than not.

The other alternative might be cellular data service. But that may not be
available in his location (which he didn't list). If he's in an area that
has coverage it's possible to use an air card in a router and hook that up
to his PCs (or wifi to laptops). I do this with our air card on the boat.
During the week the card gets used in a laptop for work. On the weekend
it's plugged into the router and gives us access for two laptops when on
board. Works great. I've a friend using the same sort of router at home as
she's too far from the central office for DSL service.


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