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Will 802.11b Adapter Work with 802.11g Router? phil6666 08-01-07
Posted by phil6666 on August 1, 2007, 6:59 pm
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Long story short-

Had a Netgear Wireless Router MR814v2 (802.11b) hooked to a VISTA PC
and it worked fine with an XP PC using a Netgear MA101 (802.11b)
adapter.

Bought a new laptop with VISTA which wouldn't connect with the Netgear
Wireless Router MR814v2 since this router's not VISTA compatible.

Just got a Belkin F5D7230-4 (802.11g) router and the laptop works
fine.

Now my XP PC with a Netgear MA101 (802.11b) adapter recognizes the
Belkin router, but won't connect. (firewall is off)

Security set to NONE on router.

Is this a compatibility issue between a 802.11b adapter and a 802.11g
router?

Is this a compatibility issue between a Netgear adapter and a Belkin
router?

Am I just doing something wrong????

thnx





Posted by Jeff Liebermann on August 1, 2007, 7:28 pm
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>Bought a new laptop with VISTA which wouldn't connect with the Netgear
>Wireless Router MR814v2 since this router's not VISTA compatible.

Nope. Vista is not router compatible. See:
"Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or
from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers"
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233>
You might check if there's a firmware update to your routers as this
problem was "solved" by the router manufactures, since it's beneath
Microsoft's dignity to admit that they screwed up.

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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Posted by Eric on August 1, 2007, 8:05 pm
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>
>>Bought a new laptop with VISTA which wouldn't connect with the Netgear
>>Wireless Router MR814v2 since this router's not VISTA compatible.
>
> Nope. Vista is not router compatible. See:
> "Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or
> from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers"
> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233>
> You might check if there's a firmware update to your routers as this
> problem was "solved" by the router manufactures, since it's beneath
> Microsoft's dignity to admit that they screwed up.
>

I guess Microsoft didn't get the memo about how DHCP should just be a simple
standard and not rocket surgery....



Posted by phil6666 on August 1, 2007, 8:41 pm
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OK...now I'm even more confused!!

I already replaced the non-VISTA compatible Netgear router with a
VISTA compatible Belkin!

As I said earlier:

>Had a Netgear Wireless Router MR814v2 (802.11b) hooked to a VISTA PC
>and it worked fine with an XP PC using a Netgear MA101 (802.11b)
>adapter.

>Bought a new laptop with VISTA which wouldn't connect with the Netgear
>Wireless Router MR814v2 since this router's not VISTA compatible.

>I just got a VISTA compatible Belkin F5D7230-4 (802.11g) router and the laptop
works fine.
>
>Now my XP PC with a Netgear MA101 (802.11b) adapter recognizes the
>Belkin router, but won't connect. (firewall is off)
>
>Security set to NONE on router.

Are you guys saying my XP PC with a Netgear MA101 (802.11b) adapter
won't work with my VISTA PC/Belkin VISTA compatible router????

That's my guess, but I didn't think that would be an issue.

thnx



wrote:

>
>>Bought a new laptop with VISTA which wouldn't connect with the Netgear
>>Wireless Router MR814v2 since this router's not VISTA compatible.
>
>Nope. Vista is not router compatible. See:
>"Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or
>from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers"
><http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233>
>You might check if there's a firmware update to your routers as this
>problem was "solved" by the router manufactures, since it's beneath
>Microsoft's dignity to admit that they screwed up.


Posted by Jeff Liebermann on August 2, 2007, 12:23 am
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>OK...now I'm even more confused!!

That's because you have presented two issues.
- 802.11b client with 802.11g router.
- Vista compatibility.

>I already replaced the non-VISTA compatible Netgear router with a
>VISTA compatible Belkin!

There's no such thing as "Vista compatible". There's the lame
Microsoft DHCP glitch, which is easily fixed, but everything else is
the same with XP and Vista. My guess is that "Vista compatible" is a
sales gimick.

>Are you guys saying my XP PC with a Netgear MA101 (802.11b) adapter
>won't work with my VISTA PC/Belkin VISTA compatible router????

- Your XP PC with whatever you own, will work with either the Netgear
or Belkin routers.
- Your Vista PC will not get a DHCP assigned IP address unless this
was fixed in the firmware of either router, *OR* you apply the fix I
mentioned.
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233>

However, I suggest that you consider getting something better and
faster than the Netgear MA101. 802.11b only clients tend to slow
everything down on a wireless network. It's not just that the 802.11b
devices are slow, it's that they hog so much airtime that the 802.11g
devices have little time left to move their traffic. I wrote
something on the topic recently:
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.wireless/msg/5f4025e60ba4c135>

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Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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