Wireless Networking WiFi through walls - Directional vs Omni Directional

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WiFi through walls - Directional vs Omni Directional Dennis 06-07-08
Posted by Dennis on June 7, 2008, 5:05 pm
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Do directional antennas only do well in line-of-sight situations?

I need to go through about 4 or 5 walls to get to my router. Would I
do better replacing my NIC's 2 dBi omni-directional antenna with a 7
dBi, or would I have better luck with a 12 dBi directional antenna
aimed at the router (through a bunch of walls)?


Posted by Charles Turner on June 7, 2008, 6:09 pm
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Depends how the signal is getting through the wall!

Broadly speaking you can have two types of directional antenna: one which is
still omnidirectional in the horizontal plane with increased gain, at the
expense of the vertical plane which is reduced, i.e. isn't very sensitive to
signals coming in from above it.

The other is increased sensitivity in both horizontal and vertical planes (a
bit like the inverse of a searchlight).

So if you can "point" towards where most of the signal is entering the room
you will get an improvement.

HTH Regards, Charles

> Do directional antennas only do well in line-of-sight situations?
>
> I need to go through about 4 or 5 walls to get to my router. Would I
> do better replacing my NIC's 2 dBi omni-directional antenna with a 7
> dBi, or would I have better luck with a 12 dBi directional antenna
> aimed at the router (through a bunch of walls)?
>


Posted by tg on June 7, 2008, 6:53 pm
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> Do directional antennas only do well in line-of-sight situations?
>
> I need to go through about 4 or 5 walls to get to my router. Would I
> do better replacing my NIC's 2 dBi omni-directional antenna with a 7
> dBi, or would I have better luck with a 12 dBi directional antenna
> aimed at the router (through a bunch of walls)?
>
I had a very similar problem recently. wifi hates walls, especially 4 or 5 of
them. If you
have no luck connecting with your 7db antenna try network-over-mains.
I'm in the UK and I got these:
http://www.wirelesspro.co.uk/product/budget_85_mbps_homeplug_kit/
If you're outside the UK there must be an equivalent for your country.
They great, and really are plug and play. There's no set up, no configuring,
just plug
them in connect the ethernets at each end and you're away.




Posted by Jeff Liebermann on June 7, 2008, 6:59 pm
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On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:05:55 -0700 (PDT), Dennis

>Do directional antennas only do well in line-of-sight situations?

No. Directional antennas can be used for non-line-o-site situations.

>I need to go through about 4 or 5 walls to get to my router.

Give up now, while you're still sane. Unless the walls are made of
paper, it's not going to work. Most walls are good for considerable
losses. If there's aluminum foil backed insulation in the walls,
nothing gets through. Fairly lossy with poured concrete and chicken
wire backed stucco or lath and plaster.

>Would I
>do better replacing my NIC's 2 dBi omni-directional antenna with a 7
>dBi, or would I have better luck with a 12 dBi directional antenna
>aimed at the router (through a bunch of walls)?

Neither. Drill a hole under the trim and run CAT5. When you move
out, patch the holes with spackle, and replace the trim. Nobody will
notice. Also CAT5e in flat cables which does nicely through cracks,
under carpets, the under doors. If impossible, think about power line
networking.



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Posted by Dennis on June 7, 2008, 7:36 pm
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> On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:05:55 -0700 (PDT), Dennis
>
> >Do directional antennas only do well in line-of-sight situations?
>
> No. =A0Directional antennas can be used for non-line-o-site situations.
>
> >I need to go through about 4 or 5 walls to get to my router.
>
> Give up now, while you're still sane. =A0Unless the walls are made of
> paper, it's not going to work. =A0Most walls are good for considerable
> losses. =A0If there's aluminum foil backed insulation in the walls,
> nothing gets through. =A0Fairly lossy with poured concrete and chicken
> wire backed stucco or lath and plaster.
>
> >Would I
> >do better replacing my NIC's 2 dBi omni-directional antenna with a 7
> >dBi, or would I have better luck with a 12 dBi directional antenna
> >aimed at the router (through a bunch of walls)?
>
> Neither. =A0Drill a hole under the trim and run CAT5. =A0When you move
> out, patch the holes with spackle, and replace the trim. =A0Nobody will
> notice. =A0Also CAT5e in flat cables which does nicely through cracks,
> under carpets, the under doors. =A0If impossible, think about power line
> networking.



I should have been more clear. This is not mission impossible. Even
with my 2 dBi antenna I am receiving a signal, at about 15% strength.
Perhaps do to multipath, open doors and open windows, but I am getting
something.
Enough to surf the web, slowly...

See this YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvJwOpJjYKqA

That's kinna what got me thinking about it. He's a directional setup
to go through walls, he picks up 200+ access points at one point. Very
interesting. Granted its a *completely* different situation, but I
dont think his results would be nearly as good with any kind of omni-
directional setup.


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