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Re: Mac address & hostname automatic randomizer freeware for Windows jhailey@hotmail.com 12-23-08
Posted by jhailey@hotmail.com on December 23, 2008, 3:38 am
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:06:36 -0800, John Navas wrote:

> Seems to me you are worrying about the wrong problems.
> Whatever. Do all your illegal stuff over VPN,

Hi there John,

I do appreciate your help and I'm sorry for those who attacked you and Jeff
who were only trying to help. I, for one, will remain civil with all people
trying to advance knowledge in this arena fraught with guesswork.

I hope I've proven the legal point (with citations as requested) about the
logging of the MAC address and hostname that was introduced in court by the
RIAA (see previous post).

My question now centers around logging of the ROUTER hostname.

We've already established that the MAC address of the router is logged by
the ISP but does anyone really know if the router hostname is likewise
logged?

I couldn't find answers in google either way whether the ROUTER hostname is
logged by your typical ISP (who definitely logs MAC addresses and IP
addresses).

Posted by Chrisjoy on December 23, 2008, 4:36 am
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On Dec 23, 10:25=A0am, Ari
> This is serious shit, people die daily relying/listening to twits
> like Johhny Naval and

And they who think this is a joke, think again. China is the perfect
example of a nation where it's unhealthy not to be thorough about
security, where individuals get shot in their head on a daily basis if
they did surf a site the Govt has banned. So, if you're not an expert
on security, shut tha fuck up if you do not want lives on you
conscience.

Posted by John Navas on December 23, 2008, 11:08 am
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:38:53 -0800, "jhailey@hotmail.com"

>On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:06:36 -0800, John Navas wrote:
>
>> Seems to me you are worrying about the wrong problems.
>> Whatever. Do all your illegal stuff over VPN,
>
>Hi there John,
>
>I do appreciate your help and I'm sorry for those who attacked you and Jeff
>who were only trying to help. I, for one, will remain civil with all people
>trying to advance knowledge in this arena fraught with guesswork.

Thank you. Civility and mutual respect are always in order.

>I hope I've proven the legal point (with citations as requested) about the
>logging of the MAC address and hostname that was introduced in court by the
>RIAA (see previous post).

Not to me -- see my response,

>My question now centers around logging of the ROUTER hostname.
>
>We've already established that the MAC address of the router is logged by
>the ISP

It certainly may be logged, but it also may not be, and how long the
logs are kept is another issue. It will vary from ISP to ISP, so I
don't think you can make any valid generalization other than to say it
_may_ be logged in a way that _may_ present some risk. That said, given
that the ISP logs the IP address, I think the MAC issue is largely
irrelevant.

>but does anyone really know if the router hostname is likewise
>logged?

Again, it will vary from ISP to ISP.

>I couldn't find answers in google either way whether the ROUTER hostname is
>logged by your typical ISP (who definitely logs MAC addresses and IP
>addresses).

The ISP probably logs IP addresses, but I personally doubt the ISP keeps
track of MAC addresses except in cases where the hardware device has
been provided to the customer and/or is used for authentication.

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