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Posted by NewsGroup on July 22, 2008, 11:17 pm
Please log in for more thread options wants clients to have access to internet fropm our office without having to add their mac address and enter a code on their end. Is there a good procedure for adding a WAP for internet only? I dont want this WAP to giver access to anything except my router going out. I would like it to disk out its own DHCP in a completely different network but still give the users Internet access Is there a whitepaper or howto>/??
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Posted by Bill Kearney on July 23, 2008, 10:11 am
Please log in for more thread options > We have a secure Wireless network using wep and mac filtering. My Boss
> wants clients to have access to internet > fropm our office without having to add their mac address and enter a code > on their end. Is there a good procedure > for adding a WAP for internet only? I dont want this WAP to giver access > to anything except my router going out. > I would like it to disk out its own DHCP in a completely different network > but still give the users Internet access > Is there a whitepaper or howto>/?? If you knew enough to get the network setup like it is already then you ought to know how to do this. If not, call (and pay) the people that set it up. Get this wrong and you run the risk of compromising the network security quite badly. You don't describe the coverage area needed. If it's just one room or small area then one access point might cover it. But if it's a multi-room, several floors or multiple buildings then it gets CONSIDERABLY more complex. Which is it? That's the first question. After that a whole bunch of others follow. Mostly concerning the existing internet connection and type of firewall being used. -Bill Kearney | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by mike on July 23, 2008, 1:06 pm
Please log in for more thread options Bill Kearney wrote:
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>> We have a secure Wireless network using wep and mac filtering. My
>> Boss wants clients to have access to internet >> fropm our office without having to add their mac address and enter a >> code on their end. Is there a good procedure >> for adding a WAP for internet only? I dont want this WAP to giver >> access to anything except my router going out. >> I would like it to disk out its own DHCP in a completely different >> network but still give the users Internet access >> Is there a whitepaper or howto>/?? >
> If you knew enough to get the network setup like it is already then you > ought to know how to do this. If not, call (and pay) the people that > set it up. Get this wrong and you run the risk of compromising the > network security quite badly. Nice attitude. We come here for help, not to hear that we should already know how or to go hire someone. Grrrr!!! I have the same problem. Westell 327w dsl modem on home network. I'd like a separate unsecured network with internet access, but no access to the primary network. I need 20 foot range. I have several consumer-grade access points and routers. Can't figure how to set it up. No, I don't want a lecture that I shouldn't. I want a tutorial on HOW. Thanks, mike >
> You don't describe the coverage area needed. If it's just one room or > small area then one access point might cover it. But if it's a > multi-room, several floors or multiple buildings then it gets > CONSIDERABLY more complex. Which is it? > > That's the first question. After that a whole bunch of others follow. > Mostly concerning the existing internet connection and type of firewall > being used. > > -Bill Kearney | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by John Mason Jr on July 23, 2008, 2:20 pm
Please log in for more thread options mike wrote:
> Bill Kearney wrote:
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>>> We have a secure Wireless network using wep and mac filtering. My
>>> Boss wants clients to have access to internet >>> fropm our office without having to add their mac address and enter a >>> code on their end. Is there a good procedure >>> for adding a WAP for internet only? I dont want this WAP to giver >>> access to anything except my router going out. >>> I would like it to disk out its own DHCP in a completely different >>> network but still give the users Internet access >>> Is there a whitepaper or howto>/?? >>
>> If you knew enough to get the network setup like it is already then >> you ought to know how to do this. If not, call (and pay) the people >> that set it up. Get this wrong and you run the risk of compromising >> the network security quite badly. >
> Nice attitude. We come here for help, not to hear that we should > already know how or to go hire someone. Grrrr!!! > > I have the same problem. Westell 327w dsl modem on home network. > I'd like a separate unsecured network with internet access, but no > access to the primary network. I need 20 foot range. I have several > consumer-grade access points and routers. Can't figure how to set it up. > > No, I don't want a lecture that I shouldn't. I want a tutorial on HOW. > You might look at some of the info on <http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/86/106/>
But what Bill is alluding too, is that if you are responsible for the network security you need to know how risk adverse you or your business is and make appropriate decisions. If you can get a second ip address from your internet provider just set up a separate network. If you can't get a second ip then connect one router to your isp and then connect wan ports of two additional routers to lan side of ISP connected router. There are some issues with double natting so you mileage may vary. A different option would be to find a router with 1 wan port and the ability to route between two diffrent internal networks If you want to run two wireless networks in same proximity choose your channels properly. John | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by mike on July 23, 2008, 5:46 pm
Please log in for more thread options John Mason Jr wrote:
> mike wrote:
>> Bill Kearney wrote:
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>>>> We have a secure Wireless network using wep and mac filtering. My >>>> Boss wants clients to have access to internet >>>> fropm our office without having to add their mac address and enter a >>>> code on their end. Is there a good procedure >>>> for adding a WAP for internet only? I dont want this WAP to giver >>>> access to anything except my router going out. >>>> I would like it to disk out its own DHCP in a completely different >>>> network but still give the users Internet access >>>> Is there a whitepaper or howto>/?? >>> >>> If you knew enough to get the network setup like it is already then >>> you ought to know how to do this. If not, call (and pay) the people >>> that set it up. Get this wrong and you run the risk of compromising >>> the network security quite badly. >>
>> Nice attitude. We come here for help, not to hear that we should >> already know how or to go hire someone. Grrrr!!! >> >> I have the same problem. Westell 327w dsl modem on home network. >> I'd like a separate unsecured network with internet access, but no >> access to the primary network. I need 20 foot range. I have several >> consumer-grade access points and routers. Can't figure how to set it up. >> >> No, I don't want a lecture that I shouldn't. I want a tutorial on HOW. >> >
Thanks for the link. Now, I gotta go searching for the
> > You might look at some of the info on > <http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/86/106/> > > But what Bill is alluding too, is that if you are responsible for the > network security you need to know how risk adverse you or your business > is and make appropriate decisions. > > > If you can get a second ip address from your internet provider just set > up a separate network. > > If you can't get a second ip then connect one router to your isp and > then connect wan ports of two additional routers to lan side of ISP > connected router. > > > There are some issues with double natting so you mileage may vary. > > A different option would be to find a router with 1 wan port and the > ability to route between two diffrent internal networks > > > If you want to run two wireless networks in same proximity choose your > channels properly. > > > John needle in that haystack. I'm not overly concerned about highest security. Ain't nothing worth having on the machine. Just like to try to keep out the pranksters who like to trash your system. Spending money on the project is outa the question. Two issues I forgot to mention... 1) the router I want open is built into the dsl modem. I want the high speed router to be the secure one. 2) I need to port forward to the net on the secondary router for voip, vnc, etc. I got the thing to work with two different nets...192.168.1.x and 192.168.2.x but couldn't figure out how to port forward to the second router. I tried subnetting one address range with subnet mask and assigning two dhcp servers, one for each half. All that did was take the other half of the last octet out of the list. Could still access the other half. mike | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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