Wireless Networking Notebook With Good Wireless (i.e. 802.11 G) Recommendations

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Notebook With Good Wireless (i.e. 802.11 G) Recommendations Jake 05-31-08
Posted by Jake on May 31, 2008, 9:47 pm
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Looking for a replacement for my old faithful laptop..Travel and need
one with
demonstrated better than usual Wi-Fi connectivity built in. Presently
use some
excellent USB units..but still would like something built in which
will perform well.
Thanks in advance..

Posted by seaweedsl on June 1, 2008, 12:29 pm
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> Looking for a replacement for my old faithful laptop..Travel and need
> one with
> demonstrated better than usual Wi-Fi connectivity built in. Presently
> use some
> excellent USB units..but still would like something built in which
> will perform well.
> Thanks in advance..

Since you are just now upgrading to built-in wifi, I presume you are
like me and don't mind using slightly older tech if it does the job
and saves money. I upgrade just like anybody, but to 3 yr old
machines. Let the previous round of expensive machines depreciate
and then buy the ones with good track records for 1/3 the cost -
that's my philosophy.

I think that the best value in fully functional used notebooks (w/USB
2.0 and built-in wireless) is the IBM Thinkpad R51. Good wifi
performance, great keyboard, decent battery life, sufficiently modern
to do most everything except CAD and gaming. Easily maintained,
parts available everywhere. There are many coming off corporate lease
nowdays and you can get a 14" one for $250- $350 with XP pro and
decent RAM if you look around. You might even find one still under IBM
warranty. They came with 3 years.

http://tinyurl.com/5xk8r8

R52 is comparable and availible certified used here: http://tinyurl.com/3hgyr4

The T4X series is a bit thinner and more beloved, but had more
problems. The R51-2 has the same guts, thicker case.

If you want a UXGA screen with performance graphics and bluetooth, the
R50p (p is important) is my pick at $500

Again, I'm assuming a lot. Maybe cost isn't an issue. If you want
new for cheap...I'd probably suggest an R60-61 for economy. Haven't
used them, but they are said to be good for wireless as well.

http://tinyurl.com/4sjaep
http://tinyurl.com/3hgyr4


Steve


Posted by on June 1, 2008, 2:06 pm
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> > Looking for a replacement for my old faithful laptop..Travel and need

> I think that the best value in fully functional used notebooks (w/USB
> 2.0 and built-in wireless) is the IBM Thinkpad R51. Good wifi

I am quite impressed by the WiFi performance of the built in WiFi on my
Lenovo Thinkpad T60p. The service manual shows that there are two internal
bar antennas, one along the top left of the screen, and on along the right
side of the screen, at the top. This laptop gets solid connections at
ranges where my DLink DWL-122 USB won't even find them on a scan, even with
a coffee can reflector.
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter
ar5211.sys (5.3.0.18, ... drive, maybe the chip, from SMC.
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-62722

Earlier Thinkpad models might be similar. There is a video on one of the
Thinkpad pages showing a guy typing on the keyboard wearing scuba gear,
sitting on the bottom of a pool. If that's important to you ... ;-)


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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

Posted by Jeff Liebermann on June 1, 2008, 2:22 pm
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On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 18:06:49 +0000 (UTC), dold@01.usenet.us.com wrote:

>Earlier Thinkpad models might be similar. There is a video on one of the
>Thinkpad pages showing a guy typing on the keyboard wearing scuba gear,
>sitting on the bottom of a pool. If that's important to you ... ;-)

This advertisement?
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rg7tKJWk2w>
or this story?
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KXx-Kys-Fk>

No way. Water does a really impressive job of blocking 2.4GHz
transmission. A wet towel will block the signal. Neither video shows
the laptop working underwater. I looked for other videos showing
underwater operation, and couldn't find any.

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Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Posted by on June 1, 2008, 3:08 pm
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> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 18:06:49 +0000 (UTC), dold@01.usenet.us.com wrote:

> >Earlier Thinkpad models might be similar. There is a video on one of the
> >Thinkpad pages showing a guy typing on the keyboard wearing scuba gear,
> >sitting on the bottom of a pool. If that's important to you ... ;-)

> No way. Water does a really impressive job of blocking 2.4GHz
> transmission. A wet towel will block the signal. Neither video shows
> the laptop working underwater. I looked for other videos showing
> underwater operation, and couldn't find any.

Oops, sorry, mixing threads.
I don't know if the underwater operation included WiFi, I'll accept your
postulation that it doesn't.

I could be misremembering... I see "spill resistant X Series".
<
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/special-offers.workflow:ShowPromo?LandingPage=/All/US/Sitelets/Best-Engineered/spill-resistant
>

Which is the youtube that you cited, and admonition that it is an
exaggeration.

But I recall a swim-suited guy tippy-tapping... The astronaut is a little
over the top ;-) there are some other cute outrageous videos on that
Lenovo page.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

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