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Posted by Bryon Friesen on January 17, 2008, 8:19 am
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seaweed steve & Jeff L) But I need some assistance on another project , here are the specs: Internet is currently being recieved at house 1. From there the stock linksys "G" router is rebroadcasting the internet to the shed and house 2. The range extender is also stock at house 2. There are no neighbours for at least a mile in all directions. Looking for different suggestions on how to cost effectively get good signal to all locations, Can I install a poe omni directional antenna that would reach both locations. Would it be better to get the seano ecb 3220 and set up wireless bridges to to both locations. I have created a pdf of the yard site for clarification if you think you can help and would like the pdf, send me an email and I send it to you. Thanks in advance, Bryon | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Bill Kearney on January 17, 2008, 9:26 am
Please log in for more thread options > Can I install a poe omni directional antenna
Antennae are not PoE. PoE allows putting the router itself closer to the antenna. You want the cable between the antenna and the router to be as SHORT AS POSSIBLE. The longer the cable (even with very high quality, very expensive, cable) you're still faced with signal loss. Where as PoE over CAT5 is quite a lot less expensive. That and directional antenna allows focusing the signal where it's most effective. For something like houses you're better off using directional antennae. Why waste signal putting it out where it's not needed? As for range extenders, ugh, personally I hate them. They're basically walkie-talkie radios. You end up wasting bandwidth (throughput and speed) using them. Sure, they "work" but at a considerable hit on performance. Combine them with omni directional antennae and multiple users and you have a recipe for disaster. You might get "coverage" in all places but the actual throughput will likely be terrible. Then there's the question of managing bandwidth. Sharing bandwidth when others start hogging the wire is a lot harder to manage when you're dealing solely with an omni-directional setup. -Bill Kearney | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by bryonfriesen on January 17, 2008, 10:12 am
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> > Can I install a poe omni directional antenna
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> Antennae are not PoE. =A0PoE allows putting the router itself closer to th= > antenna. =A0You want the cable between the antenna and the router to be as=
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> > As for range extenders, ugh, personally I hate them. =A0They're basically > walkie-talkie radios. =A0You end up wasting bandwidth (throughput and spee= > using them. =A0Sure, they "work" but at a considerable hit on performance.=
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> a recipe for disaster. =A0You might get "coverage" in all places but the
> actual throughput will likely be terrible. > > Then there's the question of managing bandwidth. =A0Sharing bandwidth when= > others start hogging the wire is a lot harder to manage when you're dealin=
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> solely with an omni-directional setup.
> > -Bill Kearney There will be a max of 3 users at most. Can you run two external antennas off of one router?? Would that be my best bet? I have been looking at cable prices and yes they are expensive, that is why I was wondering about the POE setups http://www.pacwireless.com/products/RT24.shtm= l is one that I was looking at. Bryon | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by John Navas on January 17, 2008, 1:23 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:12:55 -0800 (PST), bryonfriesen
>There will be a max of 3 users at most. Can you run two external
>antennas off of one router?? Would that be my best bet? Generally a bad idea. Use either a high-gain omni if you can live with the narrow vertical pattern, or multiple wireless access points with directional high-gain antennas. >I have been
>looking at cable prices and yes they are expensive, that is why I was >wondering about the POE setups http://www.pacwireless.com/products/RT24.shtml >is one that I was looking at. Best to pick wireless access points designed for the application, with POE built-in, often with attachable high-gain omni or directional antennas; e.g., Senao 3220 or 8610. <http://www.senao.com/>
-- Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes> | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Bryon Friesen on January 17, 2008, 10:12 pm
Please log in for more thread options ok, so from the house where my internet comes to I have a wireless G router,
I then buy two Senao 3220 and two 8610. I aim the two 8610 at my two seperate locations. Wire them up with cat 5e, then conenct both senao bridges to my wireless "G" router, should I need anything at the revieving ends another senao 3220 and atenna??? Bryon > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:12:55 -0800 (PST), bryonfriesen
> >>There will be a max of 3 users at most. Can you run two external
>>antennas off of one router?? Would that be my best bet? >
> Generally a bad idea. Use either a high-gain omni if you can live with > the narrow vertical pattern, or multiple wireless access points with > directional high-gain antennas. > >>I have been
>>looking at cable prices and yes they are expensive, that is why I was >>wondering about the POE setups >>http://www.pacwireless.com/products/RT24.shtml >>is one that I was looking at. >
> Best to pick wireless access points designed for the application, with > POE built-in, often with attachable high-gain omni or directional > antennas; e.g., Senao 3220 or 8610. <http://www.senao.com/> > > -- > Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com> > John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi> > Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo> > Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes> | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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