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Junk powerline extenders Lloyd E. Sponenburgh 05-09-08
Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on May 9, 2008, 7:30 am
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I had one of my folks pick up a Netgear HDX-101 powerline adapter kit
with the idea that we'd network our new T&A clock to the office computers
without having to trench.

The total wire distance from the clock to the breaker, then from the
breaker to the office is 70'. Both outlets on the same leg of single-
phase 110. No carrier detected.

So I brought them both into the office. If the two are connected on the
same branch, and are less than 20' apart, we get carrier. If they're on
different branches of the same leg, no carrier.

So I plugged them both into the same outlet, and did some tests.

1) they're rated at 200mb/s but have only 10/100 ports... HUH?
2) they averaged under 8mb/s throughput when on the same outlet. Ok...
maybe they're swamping... Move them to two outlets eight feet apart on
the same branch.... 7mb/s.

I'd say this is not the way to stream video... no?

LLoyd

Posted by ps56k on May 9, 2008, 12:12 pm
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> I had one of my folks pick up a Netgear HDX-101 powerline adapter kit
> with the idea that we'd network our new T&A clock to the office
> computers without having to trench.
>
> The total wire distance from the clock to the breaker, then from the
> breaker to the office is 70'. Both outlets on the same leg of single-
> phase 110. No carrier detected.
>
> So I brought them both into the office. If the two are connected on
> the same branch, and are less than 20' apart, we get carrier. If
> they're on different branches of the same leg, no carrier.
>
> So I plugged them both into the same outlet, and did some tests.
>
> 1) they're rated at 200mb/s but have only 10/100 ports... HUH?
> 2) they averaged under 8mb/s throughput when on the same outlet.
> Ok... maybe they're swamping... Move them to two outlets eight feet
> apart on the same branch.... 7mb/s.
>
> I'd say this is not the way to stream video... no?
>
> LLoyd

wow - I'm surprised they didn't work better for you
http://www.netgear.com/Products/PowerlineNetworking/PowerlineEthernetAdapters.aspx
wonder if the 85rmbps units would work better...

years ago we used some Netgear telephone wiring bridges from the office to
the loading dock,
and they worked great..... but don't see anything like that listed anymore



Posted by ps56k on May 9, 2008, 1:04 pm
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> I had one of my folks pick up a Netgear HDX-101 powerline adapter kit
> with the idea that we'd network our new T&A clock to the office
> computers without having to trench.
>
> The total wire distance from the clock to the breaker, then from the
> breaker to the office is 70'. Both outlets on the same leg of single-
> phase 110. No carrier detected.
>
> So I brought them both into the office. If the two are connected on
> the same branch, and are less than 20' apart, we get carrier. If
> they're on different branches of the same leg, no carrier.
>
> So I plugged them both into the same outlet, and did some tests.
>
> 1) they're rated at 200mb/s but have only 10/100 ports... HUH?
> 2) they averaged under 8mb/s throughput when on the same outlet.
> Ok... maybe they're swamping... Move them to two outlets eight feet
> apart on the same branch.... 7mb/s.
>
> I'd say this is not the way to stream video... no?
>

SO - decided to try the powerline adapters to the time clock
vs your original WiFi AP idea - (from your other posted thread)

BTW - OT - is there any other way to "reference" another newgroup thread ?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.wireless/browse_thread/thread/24d20f42b70a22db/d15a1d56b764e4d9





Posted by Peter Pan on May 10, 2008, 3:17 am
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> I had one of my folks pick up a Netgear HDX-101 powerline adapter kit
> with the idea that we'd network our new T&A clock to the office
> computers without having to trench.
>
> The total wire distance from the clock to the breaker, then from the
> breaker to the office is 70'. Both outlets on the same leg of single-
> phase 110. No carrier detected.
>
> So I brought them both into the office. If the two are connected on
> the same branch, and are less than 20' apart, we get carrier. If
> they're on different branches of the same leg, no carrier.
>
> So I plugged them both into the same outlet, and did some tests.
>
> 1) they're rated at 200mb/s but have only 10/100 ports... HUH?
> 2) they averaged under 8mb/s throughput when on the same outlet.
> Ok... maybe they're swamping... Move them to two outlets eight feet
> apart on the same branch.... 7mb/s.
>
> I'd say this is not the way to stream video... no?
>
> LLoyd

Did you get ONE or two (or more)? (above you didn't make it plural ie kit'S)
They work in pairs with each other at HS, or much slower with other
units.....



Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on May 12, 2008, 11:46 am
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> http://www.netgear.com/Products/PowerlineNetworking/PowerlineEthernetAd
> apters/HDX101.aspx

Twit!

THIS is what Netgear CALLS a "kit" --

Powerline HD Network Kit
HDXB101 Powerline HD Network Kit from NETGEAR
http://www.netgear.com/Home/Products/PowerlineNetworking/PowerlineEtherne
tAdapters/HDXB101.aspx

THIS is what Netgear CALLS an "adapter" --

Powerline HD Ethernet Adapter
HDX101 Powerline HD Ethernet Adapter from NETGEAR
http://www.netgear.com/Products/PowerlineNetworking/PowerlineEthernetAdap
ters/HDX101.aspx?detail=Specifications


And as skilled as you are and picking and eating nits, you missed
entirely that the KIT is the very next listing after the ADAPTER you
copied and pasted.

Displayed like this on NETGEAR's page ---

Powerline HD Ethernet Adapter
HDX101 Powerline HD Ethernet Adapter from NETGEAR
http://www.netgear.com/Products/PowerlineNetworking/PowerlineEthernetAdap
ters/HDX101.aspx

Powerline HD Network Kit
HDXB101 Powerline HD Network Kit from NETGEAR
http://www.netgear.com/Home/Products/PowerlineNetworking/PowerlineEtherne
tAdapters/HDXB101.aspx

Twit!

LLoyd


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