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IE6 won't use wireless card [was XP wireless not working] George Neuner 05-12-08
Posted by Bill Kearney on May 15, 2008, 10:00 am
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> It's a work provided laptop.

Then have work fix it.

Or if it's possible and company policy doesn't prevent it, have another
valid user log onto the machine and see if IE6 works for them.

> but in general I don't mess with the machine much

Famous last words. Heh.

> WRT trying IE7 (which someone else suggested) ... we have some
> specialized document handling software that's tied to IE6 and Office
> 2K. IT won't yet guarantee it to work with newer versions.

Won't guarantee doesn't mean won't work. But given your restricted
privileges on the machine it would probably be a bad idea to go monkeying
with the IE6/IE7 overlap issues.

I'm guessing the profile for your account has gotten screwy. I've seen it
happen on machines of my own. I've had to go so far as to trash that user
profile and start all over. IE just got unfixably confused about how to
deal with connections. Granted, this was on a machine that was several
years old and had been through a number of network card changes and VPN
setups. There's a series of layers that IE depends upon to figure out how
to "connect". It shouldn't be that complicated, but there it is. Proxies,
routing, vpn, dial-up, domain membership, etc. It's all tied together
behind the scenes. When it works it's great, but when it gets screwed up
it's a royal PITA to untangle.

Try having a cow-orker log onto the box and use IE6 for something that is
known to fail for you. If their session works, well, you've got a profile
problem. You might want to wander into Microsoft's technet articles to see
if they discuss this and suggest fixes. This might be worthwhile as work's
approach might be to just nuke your profile and force you to start over.
This will upset any other apps or configurations you've got set up. But it
may, in the end, deleting and recreating the profile may be the only
solution.

-Bill Kearney


Posted by Jeff Liebermann on May 15, 2008, 12:40 pm
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On Thu, 15 May 2008 00:49:52 -0400, George Neuner

>WRT trying IE7 (which someone else suggested) ... we have some
>specialized document handling software that's tied to IE6 and Office
>2K. IT won't yet guarantee it to work with newer versions. We just
>got XP on our laptops late last year so I'm not holding my breath for
>updates.

Let me guess.... you're in the insurance industry? I have customer
with a mess of computers that can't use IE7 thanks to some really
awful software written for some obscure client rating software. The
programmers decided to build in their own browser in their software
rather than use a stand alone browser. This was probably done to
"insure compatibility" or some such rot. The way it works is that it
uses the Windoze Explorer libraries with a custom front end. There
are even commerical and free apps that do this:
<http://www.flashpeak.com/sbrowser/>
<http://www.maxthon.com>
<http://www.netcaptor.com> (dead but still works)

Quicken and Quickbooks also use the IE libraries for their internal
browser. Quickbooks 2005 and some other versions literally don't work
on machines with IE7 installed. However, there are patches available:
<http://support.quickbooks.intuit.com/support/ie7resourcecenter.aspx>

Some things didn't quite work the same way in IE7 as in IE6.
Unfortunately, they usually result in a less than graceful
applications crash. My guess(tm) is that this is why you're stuck
with IE6.

I really don't consider it a problem because there are pleny of better
and safer browsers available. I use Mozilla Firefox. For testing
web pages, I also have Safari, Opera, Slimbrowser, NetCaptor, and
Maxthon. I won't install Netscape as it tramples on Firefox. If the
security policies are sufficient screwed up that IE6 can't be fixed,
try one of these. I suggest Firefox. Incidentally, it's worth the
effort just to use the various Add-on's.
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/>

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Posted by Jack \(MVP-Networking\). on May 13, 2008, 8:41 pm
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Hi
In principle I would not "mess/; with office setting.
However if you are allowed may be this application can help.
http://www.mobilenetswitch.com/
Jack (MVP-Networking).

>
> Thanks to everyone who responded to the last thread. I finally
> discovered that the Netgear Super-G card was intermittently failing
> and probably just happened to work when I tried it in another
> computer.
>
>
> I replaced the failing card with a new one, but now I have a new
> problem. IE6 refuses to work with the card unless my office VPN is
> active. I tried asking in IE6 specific forums, but after a few days
> I've gotten no useful answers so I thought I'd try here.
>
> The situation is this: my office laptop has built-in 11b radio, but at
> home I have a Netgear Super-G network so I use a WG511T card instead.
> The laptop also has a Cisco VPN set up by office IT. Normally, I
> should be able to use either radio, use my own network with the VPN
> disabled (and IE proxy settings disabled) and then connect the VPN to
> use my office network. This is the way I used my old Netgear card and
> it still works the same with the built-in 11b radio.
>
> However, with the new Netgear card, IE6 won't work unless the VPN is
> connected. When the VPN is disabled, all I get is "can't display page
> - can't find server or DNS error" regardless of proxy settings. I get
> the same error even if I type the server's address manually so it
> seems like IE6 isn't even trying.
>
> Other net apps (Outlook, ftp, ping, trace, nslookup) are working
> normally regardless of the VPN - when VPN is connected they route
> through my office, otherwise they route through my home network and
> ISP. Only IE6 demands the VPN be active.
>
> I can't find any settings different between the connection using the
> new card and the one using the built-in radio - both are configured
> through DHCP from my router and the settings all appear to be correct.
> Naturally the routing tables all change when the VPN is active. All
> the IE6 settings appear to be the same regardless of connection. I've
> tried uninstalling/reinstalling the Netgear card, flushing the DNS and
> browser caches when the card is in use, enabling/disabling the IE6
> proxy settings, etc. Nothing has worked. IE6 seems to be completely
> ignoring the proxy settings and just expecting the VPN all the time.
>
> There don't seem to be any settings for specific connections or
> devices in the Cisco VPN - it seems to just take over everything when
> it's active.
>
> I don't have any way of reinstalling IE6 (or anything else). Is there
> something I can check in the registry or in some setup file(s)? Any
> other thoughts or suggestions? At this point I'm completely baffled.
>
> George
> --
> for email reply remove "/" from address


Posted by Jeff Liebermann on May 14, 2008, 1:16 am
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 20:41:34 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)."

>In principle I would not "mess/; with office setting.
>However if you are allowed may be this application can help.
>http://www.mobilenetswitch.com/
>Jack (MVP-Networking).

Another configuration switcher:
<http://www.netswitcher.com>
For just the networks setup switching:
<http://www.netswitcher.com/NicSwitch/nicswitch.htm>

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# 831-336-2558 jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
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# http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS

Posted by Pavel A. on May 14, 2008, 6:18 am
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Have checked your proxy settings?
Other options on the Connections tab?
Note that all wi-fi connections go under the "LAN" category in Connections.

--PA


>
> Thanks to everyone who responded to the last thread. I finally
> discovered that the Netgear Super-G card was intermittently failing
> and probably just happened to work when I tried it in another
> computer.
>
>
> I replaced the failing card with a new one, but now I have a new
> problem. IE6 refuses to work with the card unless my office VPN is
> active. I tried asking in IE6 specific forums, but after a few days
> I've gotten no useful answers so I thought I'd try here.
>
> The situation is this: my office laptop has built-in 11b radio, but at
> home I have a Netgear Super-G network so I use a WG511T card instead.
> The laptop also has a Cisco VPN set up by office IT. Normally, I
> should be able to use either radio, use my own network with the VPN
> disabled (and IE proxy settings disabled) and then connect the VPN to
> use my office network. This is the way I used my old Netgear card and
> it still works the same with the built-in 11b radio.
>
> However, with the new Netgear card, IE6 won't work unless the VPN is
> connected. When the VPN is disabled, all I get is "can't display page
> - can't find server or DNS error" regardless of proxy settings. I get
> the same error even if I type the server's address manually so it
> seems like IE6 isn't even trying.
>
> Other net apps (Outlook, ftp, ping, trace, nslookup) are working
> normally regardless of the VPN - when VPN is connected they route
> through my office, otherwise they route through my home network and
> ISP. Only IE6 demands the VPN be active.
>
> I can't find any settings different between the connection using the
> new card and the one using the built-in radio - both are configured
> through DHCP from my router and the settings all appear to be correct.
> Naturally the routing tables all change when the VPN is active. All
> the IE6 settings appear to be the same regardless of connection. I've
> tried uninstalling/reinstalling the Netgear card, flushing the DNS and
> browser caches when the card is in use, enabling/disabling the IE6
> proxy settings, etc. Nothing has worked. IE6 seems to be completely
> ignoring the proxy settings and just expecting the VPN all the time.
>
> There don't seem to be any settings for specific connections or
> devices in the Cisco VPN - it seems to just take over everything when
> it's active.
>
> I don't have any way of reinstalling IE6 (or anything else). Is there
> something I can check in the registry or in some setup file(s)? Any
> other thoughts or suggestions? At this point I'm completely baffled.
>
> George
> --
> for email reply remove "/" from address


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