Wireless Networking Has Anyone Actually Have Working Wifi On Their Boat?

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Has Anyone Actually Have Working Wifi On Their Boat? KA2PFL 01-11-07
Posted by KA2PFL on January 11, 2007, 6:39 pm
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Hello Folks,
I am radio guy, 30 years experience installing mobile and base radio
gear. I want to install wifi on my sailboat. Common sense tells me to
install a device on the mast, so cable losses are not at issue at 2.5
or 5Ghz. I am not a wireless network guy. My idea was to install an AP
on the mast or hoist it up when I want to use it. I would like it to be
capable of a b g modes.

Now my questions;

What AP's can operate on 12 Volts?
Can I do this with just a AP, wired to the lan jack on my laptop?
You get the idea, Please make a recomendation on what equipment would
be suitable for this purpose (i do not want to be a beta tester). I
have been searching for this info on the net for weeks, and all I read
about are failures and no success stories. I am handy and would not
mind buying a AP and mounting in a waterproof box.


Thank You,
Louie KA2PFL


Posted by Al Dykes on January 11, 2007, 6:59 pm
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>Hello Folks,
> I am radio guy, 30 years experience installing mobile and base radio
>gear. I want to install wifi on my sailboat. Common sense tells me to
>install a device on the mast, so cable losses are not at issue at 2.5
>or 5Ghz. I am not a wireless network guy. My idea was to install an AP
>on the mast or hoist it up when I want to use it. I would like it to be
>capable of a b g modes.
>
> Now my questions;
>
> What AP's can operate on 12 Volts?
> Can I do this with just a AP, wired to the lan jack on my laptop?
> You get the idea, Please make a recomendation on what equipment would
>be suitable for this purpose (i do not want to be a beta tester). I
>have been searching for this info on the net for weeks, and all I read
>about are failures and no success stories. I am handy and would not
>mind buying a AP and mounting in a waterproof box.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Louie KA2PFL
>


You can run the AP via "power over ethernet" (PoE) and it's easily a
DIY project. Google for "diy poe".

I can't speak to the 12v question, but one of the web pages you find
probably does.







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Posted by NotMe on January 11, 2007, 8:27 pm
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--

| Hello Folks,
| I am radio guy, 30 years experience installing mobile and base radio
| gear. I want to install wifi on my sailboat. Common sense tells me to
| install a device on the mast, so cable losses are not at issue at 2.5
| or 5Ghz. I am not a wireless network guy. My idea was to install an AP
| on the mast or hoist it up when I want to use it. I would like it to be
| capable of a b g modes.
|
| Now my questions;
|
| What AP's can operate on 12 Volts?
| Can I do this with just a AP, wired to the lan jack on my laptop?
| You get the idea, Please make a recommendation on what equipment would
| be suitable for this purpose (i do not want to be a beta tester). I
| have been searching for this info on the net for weeks, and all I read
| about are failures and no success stories. I am handy and would not
| mind buying a AP and mounting in a waterproof box.
|
|
| Thank You,
| Louie KA2PFL

Remember when considering a high gain (especially a directional high gain)
antenna that boats rock and even if in an small inland lake you can get
considerable signal drop out if the gain is much over 3db.



Posted by Bill Kearney on January 18, 2007, 6:50 pm
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> | What AP's can operate on 12 Volts?

The Linksys WRT54G series can. I've got a pair of them on my boat. One's
in the radar arch maintaining the link to shore. The other's down in the
cabin providing an on-boat wifi network. Works pretty well once we're at
anchor.

> | Can I do this with just a AP, wired to the lan jack on my laptop?

You could do it with a wire straight from the wifi unit. But having a wired
laptop might not be terribly convenient. You'd have to deal with that cord
all the time. Run the wire from the up-mast device to the in-cabin device.

> Remember when considering a high gain (especially a directional high gain)
> antenna that boats rock and even if in an small inland lake you can get
> considerable signal drop out if the gain is much over 3db.

True, and higher gain may also pull in a wider set of networks. You'd end
up listening to "too many" and get even worse performance. And the
radiation pattern from most of these antannae is shaped like a donut. When
the boat is rocking that donut gets tilted up and down, in and out of the
coverage area. Higher gain antennae have a much narrower area of coverage.
So any rocking with a typical 14db omni would render it almost useless.
Same deal goes for a directional antenna, if you swing on anchor there goes
the coverage.

Depending on where you're planning on travelling and how you're anchoring
there would be different recommedations. I've had a 10db omnidirectional
stick on my radar arch and it's done a pretty good job of pulling in wifi
signals.

-Bill Kearney


Posted by Shaun Van Poecke on January 20, 2007, 2:58 am
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> True, and higher gain may also pull in a wider set of networks. You'd end
> up listening to "too many" and get even worse performance. And the
> radiation pattern from most of these antannae is shaped like a donut.
> When
> the boat is rocking that donut gets tilted up and down, in and out of the
> coverage area. Higher gain antennae have a much narrower area of
> coverage.
> So any rocking with a typical 14db omni would render it almost useless.
> Same deal goes for a directional antenna, if you swing on anchor there
> goes
> the coverage.
> -Bill Kearney

Would there be any merit to fitting an antenna with a gimbal of sorts?

Shaun



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