Wireless Networking Antenna Construction Accuracy

Bookmark this page:  YahooMyWeb Yahoo!  Google Google  Windows Live Favorites Windows Live  del.icio.us del.icio.us  digg digg  Add to Netscape Netscape
Subject Author Date
Antenna Construction Accuracy Jeff Liebermann 12-17-04
Posted by Jeff Liebermann on December 17, 2004, 3:09 am
Please log in for more thread options
I keep getting email asking for help with antenna construction,
probably from this newsgroup. One of the most common questions is
"how accurate do I have to cut the parts?" Let's grind the numbers.

The wavelength of 2.4GHz is:
3*10^8 meters/sec / 2.4*10^9 Hz = 0.125 meters

At this frequency, the length distance per MHz is:
0.125 meters / 2.4*10^9 Hz = 52*10^-6 meters/MHz

Assuming we aim for center frequency, the 2.4GHz band is about
+/-40MHz wide:
+/-40 * 52*10^-6 = +/-2.1 mm

Therefore, if you want to stay within the band limits, the cut
accuracy has to be well below plus or minus 2.1 mm of design
dimension. My guess is within 0.5mm will work well.

Lose the rulers and tape measures and get out the calipers.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558


Posted by Mark McIntyre on December 18, 2004, 2:02 am
Please log in for more thread options
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:09:36 -0800, in alt.internet.wireless , Jeff

>I keep getting email asking for help with antenna construction,
>probably from this newsgroup. One of the most common questions is
>"how accurate do I have to cut the parts?" Let's grind the numbers.
>
>The wavelength of 2.4GHz is:
> 3*10^8 meters/sec / 2.4*10^9 Hz = 0.125 meters

In astronomy, quarter-wave accuracy for optical surfaces is considered very
good. For radio astronomy, the same is required. WiFi is merely radio
astronomy on a smaller scale. So I'd suggest you'd find anything better
then +/- 3cm would work just fine.....

>dimension. My guess is within 0.5mm will work well.

This would certainly be very nice tho... :-)
--
Mark McIntyre
CLC FAQ <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html>
CLC readme: <http://www.ungerhu.com/jxh/clc.welcome.txt>


Posted by Dave VanHorn on December 17, 2004, 9:52 pm
Please log in for more thread options

> In astronomy, quarter-wave accuracy for optical surfaces is considered
> very
> good. For radio astronomy, the same is required. WiFi is merely radio
> astronomy on a smaller scale. So I'd suggest you'd find anything better
> then +/- 3cm would work just fine.....

You'll be really sad then..
1/4 wave accuracy in constructing a dish that's also built to that scale..
Let's see a 6" mirror is how many wavelengths across??

For most antenna work, regardless of frequency, you want to stay around 1%
accuracy on dimensions. Gets tough up here, as the difference between a
square cut and a rounded end on a wire is significant.





Posted by on December 17, 2004, 10:22 pm
Please log in for more thread options
>In astronomy, quarter-wave accuracy for optical surfaces is considered very
>good. For radio astronomy, the same is required. WiFi is merely radio
>astronomy on a smaller scale. So I'd suggest you'd find anything better
>then +/- 3cm would work just fine.....

In radio, 1/4-wave _is_ the antenna length, not the tolerance...



Posted by Mark McIntyre on December 18, 2004, 2:22 am
Please log in for more thread options
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:09:36 -0800, in alt.internet.wireless , Jeff

>I keep getting email asking for help with antenna construction,
>probably from this newsgroup. One of the most common questions is
>"how accurate do I have to cut the parts?" Let's grind the numbers.
>
>The wavelength of 2.4GHz is:
> 3*10^8 meters/sec / 2.4*10^9 Hz = 0.125 meters

In astronomy, quarter-wave accuracy for optical surfaces is considered very
good. For radio astronomy, the same is required. WiFi is merely radio
astronomy on a smaller scale. So I'd suggest you'd find anything better
then +/- 3cm would work just fine.....

>dimension. My guess is within 0.5mm will work well.

This would certainly be very nice tho... :-)
--
Mark McIntyre
CLC FAQ <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html>
CLC readme: <http://www.ungerhu.com/jxh/clc.welcome.txt>


Similar ThreadsPosted
Antenna Construction Accuracy December 17, 2004, 3:09 am
Two questions-usb;antenna construction, please help? December 26, 2008, 2:26 pm
Build WiFi Range Extender from 18" Parabolic Dish, construction pictures + instructions April 18, 2007, 5:50 pm
Antenna Booster for Wireless Routers--can Linksys antenna or Hawking be used with any router? November 30, 2004, 12:46 am
Connect Flat panel Antenna with a Parabolic Antenna November 4, 2005, 5:01 am
replacing omnidirectional antenna with a directional antenna November 23, 2006, 12:23 pm
supply GPS+GSM+WIFI car antenna, GPS+GSM shark fin car antenna March 4, 2008, 12:38 am
hawking antenna 6db and linksys 1 antenna or 2 ? May 27, 2005, 12:52 pm
Which antenna best for panel antenna January 3, 2006, 6:15 pm
5 ghz antenna January 24, 2005, 4:34 pm
Outside antenna January 26, 2005, 1:58 pm
Antenna January 4, 2006, 9:26 pm
antenna F.S- 2.4 ghz March 17, 2006, 5:35 pm
FS 2.4 ghz antenna March 18, 2006, 9:23 am
FS antenna 2.4 ghz March 20, 2006, 12:23 am
Residential Cabling Guide

Home Cabling Guide

Finally, an instantly downloadable book that saves you thousands in home improvement dollars! Enjoy living in 21st century technology-advanced home while increasing its selling value and competitive advantage on the real estate market. Whether your cabling is for home office or high-tech leisure, you can wire your home yourself or learn "wirish" to speak with your cabling contractors in their language!

Learn More