3G 3G+ 4G LTE WiMax What does the new iPhone have?

GPRS, Edge, 1G, 3G, 3G+, 4G, LTE, 4G/LTE, WiMax, HSPA+, etc.

I heard the new iPhone has "something" new that other phones and carriers don't yet have.0

What is it?

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JJ
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also, almost all lte bands in one device, including the new wcs band 30.

Reply to
nospam

LTE Advanced is not unique to iPhone.

August 13, 2015 -

Bell first in North America to introduce Tri-band LTE Advanced, the fastest mobile network technology available

Speeds of up to 290 Mbps with the new Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ and Galaxy Note5 smartphones available from Bell next week

(Note: Telus network shares with Bell, so Telus is likely to make similar claims but with different handsets).

Reply to
JF Mezei

How does "LTE Advanced" differ from "LTE" or "4G/LTE" ?

And, which of the big four carriers have it?

Reply to
JJ

What does that sentence even mean in english ?

Is "WCS 30" a new standard above LTE at 2.3GHz for E-Ultra ?

Reply to
JJ

What does that even mean ?

Every basic 802.11n WiFi radio is MIMO !

Was the older iPhone not even basic 802.11n ?

Reply to
JJ

no it doesn't. its price is comparable to other similar phones.

the galaxy note 5 actually costs *more*.

but why let facts get in the way.

Reply to
nospam

I thought, pretty much, lately, all the phones were quad frequency.

Reply to
JJ

Since UMTS (4G) came to town, there are more than 4 bands to worry about

Reply to
Andy Burns

Sorry, damned acronyms, I meant E-UTRA not UMTS

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Andy Burns

nospam wrote in snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid:

The Nexus 6 is far better on almost all important features than the iPhone 6s. And, you can buy more than TWO Nexus 6 phones, for the price of one iPhone 6s!

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Apple is great at separating people from their money. That's why they are the most profitable company in the world. That people overpay (by double) for an iPhone is why it's the most profitable product in the world.

You can't have such profits without people paying double what it's worth.

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Vincent Cheng Hoi Chuen

This was the first link I looked at: "Determining a victor is rather tough, especially when there?s not a single phone that greatly proves to deliver the better performance over the other. With that in mind, we can certainly agree at the very least, that you won?t be disappointed picking up either of them"

So doesn't really grok with your hyperbole. Plus, an entry-level

Worth is meaningless. You can only charge as much as people are prepared to pay for something. Apple have the ability (for whatever reason) to charge more than many. Samsung products are around the same price or

One also has to wonder if Google makes any money on their hardware at all. Their model is based purely around services and advertising, hence why all their stuff is 'free'. Are they selling phones with low margins just to ensure their userbase?

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chris

The move to software based radios has enabled breaking that original hardware wall. I believe the iPhone 6s supports 29 frequencies now. (although this may represents blocks within a frequency group, for instance, 700mhz has 5 paired blocks A B C ,C1 and C2 (some countries may have carved them up differently) and then 1 each of upload and download D and E which few phone support).

So from a marketing point of view, you could claim 700 as 1 frequency or 5.

The different blocks start to matter when AT&T and Verizon start to use predatory practices. They got handset manufactiurers including Apple to not support 700-A "because of interference". This is the 700 block that T-Mobile had gotten. (they did the same to delay by many years the iphone's support of 1700 for 3G, which is what T-Mobile was using its

1700 for).
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JF Mezei

in other words, you're picking which features to compare.

the only fair comparison is with *all* features.

compared to an iphone 6s, the nexus 6 lacks a 64 bit processor, advanced lte, a fingerprint sensor, 3d touch and live photos, just to name a few.

also keep in mind that the nexus series is subsidized by google so you're not actually paying the full retail price. google makes money by monetizing users with ad revenue.

no you can't.

when the nexus 6 came out last year, it was the same price as an iphone

6:

The Nexus 6 finally arrived in the Play Store in mid-October, starting at $649 in either blue or white colors, but was severely limited in availability until U.S. carriers started to sell it in early November.

since the nexus 6 is now last year's model and because it didn't sell that well, google has cut the price by $150, so it now starts at $500 on the play store.

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nospam

that's exactly what they're doing. amazon does the same with the kindle.

apple doesn't make their money by mining user data or pushing ads.

Reply to
nospam

Actually they do. They broker ads that app makers agree to have in their apps. So when app maker agrees to ads, Apple provides the ads and gives a protion of proceeds to the app maker.

Of course, this is not as huge a piece of the business as it is for Google.

Secondly, while Nexus 5 was sold likely at cost, the Nexus 6 was sold at a profit for Google.

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JF Mezei

no they don't

that's not the same thing.

it wasn't.

Reply to
nospam

Maybe so. The only useful comparison is with those feaure that are relevant to me. I agree that's hard to generalize, so one should read different comparisons from different paople and discard those, that look at irrelevant stuff.

Axel

Reply to
Axel Berger

No, definitely so.

The only valid comparison is one that takes everything into account - something apparently some (including you) are unwilling to do. That's all well and good; just don't expect the rest of us to ignore things you wish to ignore just because it's more convenient for you to ignore them.

Reply to
Jolly Roger

Everything that is important to you.

Say you are a man and the phone has some feature that is of use only to women. That feature has no use to you. So the fact that phone 1 has that feature and phone 2 doesn't means that both are equal since phone 1 has a feature of 0 value to you.

And when comparing specs on the "tech specs", it is not only impossible to compare fairly because manufacturer s never put exactly the same stuff on (for instance, Apple doesn't put CPU speed or RAM amount), but often the specs can be misleading.

For instance a 8MP camera for an apple phone may appear to be inferior to a 12MP camera on some Samsung on the specs. But when you dig deeper and use your own experience, you may find the camera on the iphone actually yields better pictures because of better exposure and colour balance etc etc.

Similarly, the user interface on one phone may be better than on another, yet, this is a highly pejorative measure and worse, one which requires expereicne on both phones before a judgement can be made.

It is not fair to compare a phone with which you hyave years of experience against a new phone on which you have 5 miniutes experience and haven't learned any of the tricks to truly use it effectively.

So it truly isn't easy to compare two phone.

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JF Mezei

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