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break up google. this is no duplicate

Re: 2bad google ruinedd the usnet
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 10:06:43 -0000 (UTC), BYANYOTHER NAME wrote:

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If anybody can fix this guy... Jeff, can you help this guy?  

<ducking>

-sw

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No, I can't help him.

The problem with raising the dead is that you end up with a zombie
which is not quite what you wanted and lacking in many ways.  

Breaking up Google will likely follow the same path as breaking up
AT&T in 1982.  Those who held Baby Bell stock made money from the
breakup.  When the Baby Bells eventually began buying each other, they
made more money.  Eventually the AT&T which emerged from these
conglomerations was a shadow of its former glorious monopoly.  In
other words, a Zombie.

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Jeff Liebermann     jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D    http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann     AE6KS    831-336-2558

Re: 2bad google ruinedd the usnet

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Hah, the usenet is a zombie now. thanks to google. It USED to be a  
valuable source of information, but like this group, it's nothing now.

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On 3/23/20 12:14 AM, duh_IMA-STOOPID_A-Io-eadmin wrote:
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Google had nothing to do with it. If you had any clue and knew anything
about history, you'd know that the death of Usenet began the moment AOL
connected to the network and began giving its mouth-breathing moron
subscribers access.

Even that was only part of the reason.  Times change. Many old
technologies /protocols died (or declined) and were replaced due to
better, or at least easier, alternatives. Gopher and WAIS are gone. HTML
and HTTP killed off those two.  IRC declined when Instant Messaging
became a thing.

You're a troll and not even a good one.

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Re: 2bad google ruinedd the usnet
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I must be somewhat good, ... YOU answered. quit putting your stupid shit  
Pgp sig in your messages nobody wants to talk to you.

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Re: 2bad google ruinedd the usnet
On 3/23/20 1:14 AM, duh_IMA-STOOPID_A-Io-eadmin wrote:
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There's still plenty of life in Usenet.  There's just a pittance  
compared to what it once was.

I subscribe to over 300 newsgroups and actively participate in more than  
50 a week.  There is still plenty of worthwhile content to be had.



--  
Grant. . . .
unix || die

Re: 2bad google ruinedd the usnet
@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net:

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u know it used to be when dejanews was here that you could actually do  
meaningful searches on the usenet and actually get valuable information,  
not just a bunch of spamming crap and lies. Break up google. Break up  
facebook, breakup all the fucking pig/yuppie/incompetently run corrupt  
internet monopolies.

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On 3/21/20 6:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
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Tsk tsk, Jeff.  AT&T was broken up on December 31, 1983 (not 1982).


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Re: 2bad google ruinedd the usnet
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 23:23:06 -0700, Johann Beretta

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Ummm....
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakup_of_the_Bell_System
   The breakup of the Bell System was mandated on January 8, 1982
   by an agreed consent decree...

However, you're correct about the date when the breakup happened:
   Effective January 1, 1984, the Bell System's many member  
   companies were variously merged into seven independent  
   "Regional Holding Companies"...

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On 3/24/20 10:53 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
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Okay. I'll concede this one. The breakup was ordered in 1982 so you're
more correct.
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Indeed. The RBOC's. Regional Bell Operating Companies (i.e. Pacific
Bell, Southwestern Bell, NYNEX, etc)

As an aside:

Most people forget that Verizon was an RBOC (Bell Atlantic) and, given
that AT&T (as named now) used to be called SBC (Southwestern Bell
Corporation), is as much a Bell company as AT&T is.  They're both half
of the old AT&T. Yet folks will absolutely insist they're somehow differe=
nt.




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Re: 2bad google ruinedd the usnet
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 18:15:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

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I'm not so sure about that.  Google provides valuable services to
the Intelligence and law enforcement communities, and the Government
appreciates a single, easily pliable conduit for which to obtain
that information and services.

-sw

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Well, you might be right.  The government would be primarily
interested in those divisions that track individuals, collect personal
information (spying), sniff email, data center operations, create user
profiles, etc.  If the Feds break off just those divisions that are
involved in these activities, the remaining divisions, such as
advertising, productivity software, cloud storage, videos, balloon
communications, etc could still be profitable.  It would be a weird
looking breakup, but I think it could be made to function without
losing much functionality to any of the resulting divisions.

"All the companies and divisions under Google's parent companies,
Alphabet, which just made yet another shake-up to its structure"
<https://www.businessinsider.com/alphabet-google-company-list-2017-4


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Re: 2bad google ruinedd the usnet
On 4/8/20 1:07 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
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You don't think AT&T provided the government with a single point to  
eavesdrop on people?

Were you even alive in 1984?



Re: 2bad google ruinedd the usnet
On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 17:01:52 -0700, Johann Beretta wrote:

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Cruising the El Camino in a convertible bird-doggin' chicks and
bangin' beaver.

-Randle McMurphy

Re: 2bad google ruinedd the usnet
BYANYOTHER NAME blethered:

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You can fix that, all by yourself. Follow the instructions on the
"Usenet Improvement Project" pages:
<https://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ .

For you and other Xnews users, click on "Xnews" in the left panel.

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Dejanews dropped Usenet because its Usenet was losing money, not making  
it. You have no clues how to turn that around.



Re: 2bad google ruinedd the usnet
GETOFFYOURARSEANDDO SOMETHING

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Sure I do. Break up Google, Microshit, Faceliars and the rest. Bring the
net back to the people. Get rid of netcops, shit admins, greedy
incompetent website operators and other low lives.  


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Ahh yes, I do miss the old Usenet flame fests and cancellation wars, the
freshman swarm every September and the joys of everyone getting a modem for
Christmas.

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Now you have flame wars except you can only fight back if you pay
corrupt site admins. Now you have usenet admins that try to block you
whenever someone objects to what you say. You have high speed internet
so they can send you viruses and trojans faster and so the rich can have
better internet than the poor. Yeah I do miss the good ol days when
people on the net were mostly intelligent and not a bunch of wankers.  

Re: 2bad google ruinedd the usnet
On 4/6/20 11:40 PM, BYANYOTHER NAME wrote:

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All usenet servers have ALWAYS been privately owned by somebody or some  
organization.

You haven't proposed anything useful except to bitch about how good it  
was back in the olden days.


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