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VPN over GPRS not working? Kai Schaetzl 09-29-05
Posted by Kai Schaetzl on September 29, 2005, 3:31 am
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I'm trying to establish a VPN tunnel from my laptop over GPRS to my office
LAN. VPN works fine from broadband or dialup, but GPRS fails.

Client is Windows XP, Server is pptpd/pppd on a Snapgear appliance, mobile
provider is O2 Germany.
It seems the GPRS connection works via NAT and that this may be the cause
of the problem. The log shows "LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests" which
might also indicate that my side couldn't answer because of NAT.

Is there anything I can do about that concerning the server configuration?
I do have good knowledge about Linux and partly about networking but
exactly none about pptpd/pppd, I just use the web interface provided by
the router. I can edit configuration files (pptpd.conf and options.pptp as
I understand) directly if necessary.

Other possible causes might be MTU or the GPRS gateway not allowing highly
encrypted authentication. I tried everything down to even no
authentication, nothing worked over GPRS. MTU seems to be at normal 1500.
So, I think both are not relevant here.

Kai



Posted by Mike Drechsler - SPAM PROTECTE on September 29, 2005, 7:29 pm
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Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> I'm trying to establish a VPN tunnel from my laptop over GPRS to my office
> LAN. VPN works fine from broadband or dialup, but GPRS fails.
>
> Client is Windows XP, Server is pptpd/pppd on a Snapgear appliance, mobile
> provider is O2 Germany.
> It seems the GPRS connection works via NAT and that this may be the cause
> of the problem. The log shows "LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests" which
> might also indicate that my side couldn't answer because of NAT.
>
> Is there anything I can do about that concerning the server configuration?
> I do have good knowledge about Linux and partly about networking but
> exactly none about pptpd/pppd, I just use the web interface provided by
> the router. I can edit configuration files (pptpd.conf and options.pptp as
> I understand) directly if necessary.
>
> Other possible causes might be MTU or the GPRS gateway not allowing highly
> encrypted authentication. I tried everything down to even no
> authentication, nothing worked over GPRS. MTU seems to be at normal 1500.
> So, I think both are not relevant here.
>
> Kai
>

Nothing you can do but complain to the GPRS service provider.



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Posted by Kai Schaetzl on September 29, 2005, 11:31 pm
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Mike Drechsler - SPAM PROTECTED EMAIL schrieb am Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:29:00
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> Nothing you can do but complain to the GPRS service provider.

Figured that, thanks!

Kai



Posted by Martin Bodenstedt on September 30, 2005, 9:32 am
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Mike Drechsler - SPAM PROTECTED EMAIL schrieb:
> Kai Schaetzl wrote:

>> I'm trying to establish a VPN tunnel from my laptop over GPRS to my
>> office LAN. VPN works fine from broadband or dialup, but GPRS fails.

> Nothing you can do but complain to the GPRS service provider.

I don't think so.

NAT on the client side normally is no problem.

The long latency of the link could be a problem however - and that is
intrinsic to IP traffic over GSM (with/out GPRS)...



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Posted by Konstantinos Agouros on September 30, 2005, 7:10 pm
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>Kai Schaetzl wrote:
>> I'm trying to establish a VPN tunnel from my laptop over GPRS to my office
>> LAN. VPN works fine from broadband or dialup, but GPRS fails.
>>
>> Client is Windows XP, Server is pptpd/pppd on a Snapgear appliance, mobile
>> provider is O2 Germany.
>> It seems the GPRS connection works via NAT and that this may be the cause
>> of the problem. The log shows "LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests" which
>> might also indicate that my side couldn't answer because of NAT.
>>
>> Is there anything I can do about that concerning the server configuration?
>> I do have good knowledge about Linux and partly about networking but
>> exactly none about pptpd/pppd, I just use the web interface provided by
>> the router. I can edit configuration files (pptpd.conf and options.pptp as
>> I understand) directly if necessary.
>>
>> Other possible causes might be MTU or the GPRS gateway not allowing highly
>> encrypted authentication. I tried everything down to even no
>> authentication, nothing worked over GPRS. MTU seems to be at normal 1500.
>> So, I think both are not relevant here.
>>
>> Kai
>>

Are You sure, that Your VPN-Software can cope with NAT-traversal?
Microsoft PPTP stuff uses GRE and this can not be natted.

Konstantin
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