Do rate centers cross state lines? [telecom]

There were a number of these border crossing situations were one office would be reached through a different NPA-Prefix arrangement. McDermitt Nevada 775-732 and Quinn, Oregon, 541-522 (or from an earlier time 702-532, 503-522) is a good example. There were also numerous examples in the plains in ND, SD, NE, KS and their borders. There was even the international example through at least the 1980s between Point Roberts, Washington (206-945) and Ladner BC (604-943) with BC Tel as the LEC. That arrangement is long gone.

I do not think regulators ever really worried about it. The volume through these rate centers was so small, that the cost of "fixing" the situation would far outweigh the loss revenues.

Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 19:16:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Neal McLain To: snipped-for-privacy@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Do rate centers cross state lines? Message-ID:

Another case in point: Wendover Utah and West Wendover, Nevada. [telecom]

A few months ago Clint Gilliland, of Menlo Park, CA, posted the following message on the TCI listserv:

[West] Wendover, Nevada and Wendover, UT were adjacent cities > sharing the same SxS CO (in 1971). The Utah numbers were > 801-665-2NNN and the Nevada numbers were 702-668-2NNN. The 665 and > 668 homed on the same final switch train. It looks like it would > be possible to make out of state rate calls from Utah to a > Wendover, UT 665-2NNN number just by dialing 702-668-2NNN. And > vice-versa. This would save money when in-state rates were always > higher than out of state calls. > > I scanned the WHOLE Mountain Bell Wendover directory - a whole > four pages. The full range of numbers was -22NN, -23NN, -28NN and > -98NN. I believe the -98NN numbers could also be reached by -28NN. > > These must have been coin phones as the two gas stations > listed -98NN numbers.

Gilliland did indeed scan the entire directory -- all four pages. A PDF is posted here:

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I note that there were no long distance dialing instructions for Nevada subscribers. I wonder if the procedure for calls within Utah also worked for calls from Nevada -- for example, a call from West Wendover Nevada to Ogden Utah?. And how did Nevada customers make calls within Nevada?

As Gilliland noted, there are 665-98xx and 668-98xx numbers -- probably coin phones. On further investigation I note:

- On the Utah side, these numbers are all gas stations.

- On the Nevada side, another type of business is evident: Jim's Casino and the Hide Away Club.

Gracious! Gambling and drinking in Nevada but not Utah!

Well, some things never change.

Neal McLain

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