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Smart Phone Wars: Apple vs. RIM vs. ...the Android Operating System? [Telecom] Monty Solomon 04-05-08
Posted by Monty Solomon on April 5, 2008, 1:31 pm
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Smart Phone Wars: Apple vs. RIM vs. ...the Android Operating System?

By Paul Carton
April 1, 2008

The release of the Apple (AAPL) iPhone rocked the cellular industry
last year, and some analysts are now asking if the pending release of
Google's (GOOG) Android cellular phone operating system may have a
similar impact.

The answer: Not likely.

According to a March 17-24 ChangeWave survey of 3,597 consumers, the
smart phone industry continues to transform into a two-horse race
between Research In Motion's (RIMM) BlackBerry and Apple's iPhone.

While RIM currently dominates smart phone sales among consumers, the
Apple iPhone has had tremendous success and continues showing
momentum in this market. Meanwhile, the longstanding woes of Palm
(PALM) and its Treo are accelerating.

...

http://blog.changewave.com/2008/04/smart_phone_apple_rim_google.html


***** Moderator's Note *****

<RANT>
I haven't bought a Blackberry or an iPhone, and I probably won't buy
the Google version, either. What gets my goat with these products is
how they're not content to sell me a device, but instead demand that I
subscribe to a "service" provided by someone they're in bed with, and
pay a monthly fee for the rest of my life when I'd be perfectly
content to do without mobile email and just have an address book.

It seems to me that every company in the consumer market is drooling
at the thought of getting an annuity from every product they sell, be
it a "service contract" or an "extended warranty" or email forwarding
to a cell phone. Nobody wants to sell _things_ anymore: they want to
attach themselves to my bank account and automatically withdraw
tribute like an electronic leach that I can never remove.

I'm still stuck in the "dark ages" of having a separate Palm Pilot and
an ordinary cell phone, but I'm content with it because I'll be damned
if I contribute to someone's retirement annuity just to get an address
book built into the phone.
</RANT>

Bill Horne
Temporary Moderator

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Posted by Geoffrey Welsh on April 6, 2008, 10:05 pm
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Assuming I understand you correctly, I feel exactly the same way... which is
why I bought a Motorola RAZR and, using Motorola Phone Tools, synchronize my
contacts between my computer and my telephone.  No data plan with the
associated costs.  It's no Palm Pilot, so I don't recommend it for people who
want a serious PDA, but it means that I don't have to type all my phone
numbers, e-mail addresses, and appointments into my phone.  It also means
that I won't lose that list if I lose or break my phone.

Also, although I can understand that mobile operators would want to sell you
a data plan and would assume that you'd want one, but I'm surprised that
there is not a company out there somewhere that will sell you a PDA/phone
combo (e.g. Treo) with just a voice plan.

--
Geoffrey Welsh <Geoffrey [dot] Welsh [at] bigfoot [dot] com>



***** Moderator's Note *****

I'd like a Treo, but Virgin Mobile won't support one: they only offer
a proprietary device running windoze. Sprint (which provides the
network for Virgin Mobile) will support a Treo, but I don't like the
commitment involved.

In the end, I'm not so mad about the packaging of phones and services
as I am about the change in business philosophy behind it: all the
MBA's cranked out of Wharton tell their boss that to maximinze its
harvest for the upcoming cycle the firm must prioritize cash flow and
maximize the tie-in value of horizontally integrated service
offerings.

They know that everyone will, eventually, have an attack of common
sense and tell Apple and Google and Christ-only-knows-who to stuff it
and just sell the phone. The whole game is to scam as much money as
they can as quickly as they can, future loyalty or word-of-mouth
advertising or quaint ideas about quality be damned.

Bill Horne
Temporary Moderator

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Posted by Tom Horne on April 8, 2008, 11:09 pm
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Geoffrey Welsh wrote:

Well that's what Verizon sold me although they seemed totally puzzled
by my having the Palm Treo and not wanting any of their enhanced
services.  The salesman finally got the idea when I began carefully
annunciating the word "no" in response to each successive query.  He
started to look annoyed but I said I was beginning to think he didn't
understand me when I said "no" the first time.  The amusement flashed
across his eyes and he relaxed and finished the transaction fairly
quickly.  I was doing him a favor, you see, by not letting him waste
his selling time on a 'no sale' result. I give him plus marks for
appreciating the courtesy I was showing him.  The true robots get
annoyed and stay annoyed.

--
Tom Horne

Well we aren't no thin blue heroes but we aren't no blackguards to.
We're just working men and women most remarkable like you.

With apologies to the Kipling trust for the paraphrasing.


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