Work Ethic, Pride in Workmanship, Sense of Accomplishment

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I wonder what ever happened to Graham.  I think he was the ne on this  
group who told me most people absolutely do not have those things.  He  
said, "A tech wants to do as little work as possible for the most amount  
of money possible PERIOD."

Whether it was him or not... its true.  There are rare exceptions and  
some shades of grey, but generally its true.  I think if I had taken him  
at his word right then and there I would have fired everybody sooner and  
made a lot more money.



Re: Work Ethic, Pride in Workmanship, Sense of Accomplishment
On Tuesday, January 21, 2020 at 10:40:27 AM UTC-5, Bob La Londe wrote:
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It's the very reason that I work alone and have for over 20 / 25 (?) years  
now.

Don't know that I make more money because I have to work longer hours to ac
complish what I should be able to accomplish is less then half the time if  
I had a worker that ------- well ------ worked or that I didn't have to go  
back and correct stupid mistakes and shortcuts. OR ----- have to go back an
d make excuses for someone else's shitty workmanship.  

The ono overwhelming benefit ------ I'm happy and enjoy what I do and have  
a great sense of accomplishment and satisfaction in what I do. And ---- I g
et paid for it.  

Re: Work Ethic, Pride in Workmanship, Sense of Accomplishment
On 1/21/2020 11:19 PM, Jim Davis wrote:
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Jim,

Well said!!  So Ditto Ditto Ditto!!
I dropped the "employee" thing a quite a few of years ago as well.
My thoughts area as follows:

If an employee shows up on time, does the job or task required,
efficiently, correctly, the first time, etc. they absolutely DESERVE
to be compensated (aka paid) for their time and efforts.

However, if an employee is late, goof off, has to do the task twice or
three times, makes mistakes, blows stuff up, can't think past the moment  
and many other issues, they are absolutely REQUIRED to be paid for their  
time.

Here on USENET I can't emphasize the capitalized words enough.  For
starters visualize in BOLD RED typeset.

Then again as age slows me down, I have had a need for help to do  
certain jobs.  I use subs and they work out well since for them
to be in their own business they are in, they need a good work ethic.
I appreciate that and we work very well together.

I now, also have a part timer on payroll that I use when the subs
are not available and when he is free to provide the time.  His
work ethic is top notch.  When I thanked him one day for having
such good work ethic, he explained that it was his Dads fault.
I told him NOT to lose it!!

Have a good hump day all.

Les

Re: Work Ethic, Pride in Workmanship, Sense of Accomplishment
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 8:14:14 AM UTC-5, ABLE1 wrote:
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I was going to say that you were lucky to have found someone that works to  
your standards.  

But --- I guess if I hadn't given up looking I might have found someone als
o.
Just took too long looking without finding someone.

I happen to have four new constructions jobs going on at the same time righ
t now. Kind of difficult scheduling around all the other contractors. Worki
ng from about 8:00 AM till sometimes 10:00 PM so I can weave in and out of  
the other contractors schedules. I wont go into the scopes of the jobs but  
the 3 home jobs have varying degrees of alarm, audio, video, whole house au
dio, CCTV, and internet wiring. One home has 15 audio glass break detectors
.  The one commercial job has 20 Internet/telephone ports, Office music sys
tem, Alarm, TV's and CCTV. all wiring above 16 foot drop ceiling.  

I went for my physical the other day and the doc asked me if I was getting  
any exercise.  

Re: Work Ethic, Pride in Workmanship, Sense of Accomplishment
On 1/22/2020 12:35 PM, Jim Davis wrote:
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Jim,

Sound like me about 5 years ago.  Three or four big projects in the
works.  Then out of no where I get a call on Thursday from Customer #1
that they are ready to drywall next Monday.  Then an hour or so later
get a call from Customer #2 that they will be ready for rough in Monday.
Then or Friday get a call from Customer #3 that the final coat of paint
is on the walls and will be ready for equipment install next week.
Uncontrollable chaos........................  One guy can only be at
one place at one time.  It is just a what it is.  Juggling multiple
balls is cruel and unusual punishment!!  Drop one ball and you might
as well pull in the dirt.  :-)

BTW my Doctor asked the same thing and I just laughed as well.  However,
just in case you didn't figure it out.  What he really should have said
was. "Are you getting any exercise ABOVE and BEYOND your normal daily
activities??

I am not and have never been a exercise person.  I even have a few
exercise gyms as customers and they have give me a free pass to use
the facilities.  I went twice a few years ago just to see how it was.
It wasn't for me.  I do realize it would be helpful but.............


Later,

Les









Re: Work Ethic, Pride in Workmanship, Sense of Accomplishment
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 7:57:59 AM UTC-5, ABLE1 wrote:
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Yeah but ----- if you weren't doing all that work you'd be going to the gym
 to exercise  ;->

AND --- What do you mean HELPFUL ???

I just don't see how lugging an 8 foot or 20 foot ladders around all day, (
10 hours or more) climbing them 50 to 80 times (because I drop a lot of shi
t), balancing without holding on while sorting/splicing/mounting things. Tr
eking up and down basement and second floor stairways, Unloading and loadin
g multiple 40/50 pound boxes of wire from the van along with tool boxes and
 multiple trips back and forth to the van for other tools -------- My iPhon
e says that I average close to 5000 steps a day, which is about 2 miles.

 ---------- and that doesn't qualify as exercise !!!!!  

I think that retired people who go to the gym to exercise don't do that and
 need to get up off their fat ass and get a job before they go brain dead w
hile they're watching TV on a treadmill.

Re: Work Ethic, Pride in Workmanship, Sense of Accomplishment
On 1/23/2020 2:08 PM, Jim Davis wrote:
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Jim,

Relax, chill out!!  I understand totally.

Have a good weekend.

Les



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