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Uh oh........ Looks like the Bass "Bob Worthy is a respected member"
train is at the end of the line.

How much longer before you start attacking Bob Worthy, Pinky?
Worthy knows you're a bullshit artist, and you're pissed because he
didn't support your false claims. Last week you thought Worthy was the
greatest thing since sliced bread, but now that he disagrees with you
will you start attacking him? I know you were biting the old tubby
tongue when you typed your response, but history says you're going to
implode any day now. It's impossible for you to keep your nastiness
inside. You're about to burst. C'mon Bass, don't make us wait. We know
it's going to happen anyway. Avoid the Xmas rush and start posting how
after further investigation you found out that Bob Worthy is the ASA
mole.
Tick tick tick tick tick...............time is running out. Can't hold
the flood of hatred back any longer can you?



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Neither one of you have anything of real worth...


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So...  is this "report" a matter of public record??  You have a copy of it??
Does it back up what you say or are you "interpreting" it's content in your
own peculiar way??


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Uh-huh...  How much "trash" have *you* posted in Usenet, Robert??  Are you
familiar with the phrase "pot, kettle, black"??


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Rats!!  I thought you'd come to your senses and decided to use real
English!!  ;-))


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Did you show him a few "links" from stuff you posted as well??  Did you tell
him how completely innocent you were of any such behaviour and that these
attacks on you in Usenet are baseless??  That all you're trying to do is
"help" people install alarm systems, laying out, designing and selling
components??  That in the course of doing such you come under attack from
"big bad alarm companies" that quiver in fear of your business model??


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I've known you for years as well...  I wouldn't consider you a "pal",
though...


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I'll bet they talk about you all the time too...  ;-)


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Hmmm...  so was your complaint to Graham's employer...  I would imagine it's
not pleasant having the tables turned on you like that...  not that I
believe anything you've stated here.  Besides...  you can "sugar coat" what
happened when you killed that young woman all you want...  You were in
control of a vehicle when you weren't fully in control of yourself.  The
responsibility for her death rests squarely on your shoulders.  Playing
"Russian Roulette" with her would have had the exact same consequences (her
death) and been just as irresponsible a use for a gun...  Murder:  "1.  The
unlawful killing of one human being by another, especially with malice
aforethought;  3.  To kill (one or more human beings) brutally or inhumanly;
4.  To destroy or put an end to".  I'd say you "murdered" this young woman's
family's hopes and dreams for her.  I'd say killing someone in an automobile
accident is a pretty brutal way to do it.  "Murder" fits your crime.  The
fact that you weren't legally punished for it is a gross oversight on the
part of the responding authorities.


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Do I hear violins playing??


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He has gotten under your skin...


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You can't "find" much out about me either...  Or Jim (Alarminex)...  yet you
call us both "liars"...  Interesting...  There's solid proof that you lie on
Google...  There's evidence that you've posted false complaints to
competitor's websites, gone "real life" with people that you don't like or
who don't support your particular "mantra"...


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You can't "challenge" the garbage you've posted on Usenet yourself.
Baseless accusations, lies, innuendo (some of it twisted and perverted)...
Any legal challenge you'd make in a court of law wouldn't survive close
scrutiny of your own behaviour...


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All of which you can prove, right??  Bob's version of this whole thing is
completely erroneous, right??


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Heh....  right...


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Oh??  You've told Bob you'd removed a Brinks panel and even went so far as
to describe the telephone connection...  I'd say that qualifies as
"unlicensed activity" there Robert...  Do you sell security products to
people in Florida??  Do you "design, layout, and service" that equipment??


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You need some help, there Robert.  This "persecution complex" has taken over
your life...


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You mean like Graham??  What "dirt" are you going to invent here??  I'm
looking forward to seeing it...


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What "lie" was that??

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If you think for one minute (and you know this to be true), people have very
little say as to what Mike posts on his Goofy website.

Except Leuck of course.  :-))



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Guilty of what??


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Ah...  but taking the "vermin" to court would mean exposing yourself as
well...  That's definitely not a pretty picture...


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Uh-huh...  and it looks to me that the lies you've posted here has pretty
well cemented the opinions of several others here about you...


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You *assume* a lot of things...  including that Worthy and Mugford are
"friends"...


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I still have my doubts...  Your admitting to Rob that you'd removed a Brinks
panel only recently sort of flies in the face of everything you've said
about *not* engaging in service work that *requires* a license.


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Yep.  It sure does.  It *excludes* you from performing service which you've
admitted you've done.


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That's "structures".

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Including removing professionally installed alarm equipment...

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Actually, the way the law reads it doesn't differentiate between work
performed in or out-of-state.  It clearly states that if you're involved in
"layout, design, and service" you must be licensed.

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In *your* opinion...  But then we know your opinion doesn't count for much.


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He's certainly not "trying" anything of the sort.  I think his explanation
of how things went down is a good deal more accurate than the "spin" you've
placed on the matter...


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There's a lot of "grayness" in the law.  You've pointed out examples
yourself...


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Uh-huh...  Sold any "surveilance" systems lately??


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I'd be interested in seeing that too...


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Translation:  Robert's had to rethink the way his business model is
running... (in circles)...


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Check.


Only those that provide "layout, design, and service"...


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The sooner you're retired from this industry, the better...


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I'm sure he does.  It's what he said that went right over your head.


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It figures you'd post your own "interpretation" of what happened here, and
include Norm in further personal attacks...


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That's funny...  I think a lot of people here feel the same way about you...


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Hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha!!!

"Pot, kettle, black!!"




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Senate Bill 982 and House Bill 1207

 > Not likely.  Monitoring isn't a major profit center.  It takes too much
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How convenient Mr. Bass......You lost his card....
More Lies......



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More lies Mr. Bass.....
BTW...I am Canadian, eh!


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I don't play golf Mr. Bass...where did you come up
with that lie?

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Who is "they" Mr. Bass....I never discussed anything about your
case with Mr. Reddinger or anybody else....why because
only in your mind was I involved......In reality, you were the
one that wrote you were investigated......You let the cat out
of the bag Mr. Bass..........now your trying to put the "best"
spin on it"......

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Did you kill a young lady Mr. Bass because of your stupidity.....
If the answer is "yes" Mr. Bass...you committed a wrongfull
death.....AKA Murder. IMO.........

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him.

You're lieing again Mr. Bass. In only your wrongfull
opinion was I involved. But then, you wrongfully
think that I'm a competitor......I hope not a competitor
to murder..........


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You're the liar Mr. Bass...not me......


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More Lies Mr. Bass.......


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I told you "what"...you lie Mr. Bass, you lie...

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Sure Mr. Bass...them lie are spilling out again.....
Nose getting close to your feet Mr. Bass?

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He isn't assuming anything Mr. Bass...you are.
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Lordy, Lordy ......Praise the Lord...The Bassman is going
to Brazil.........

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 It figures you'd defend him.

You need defense Mr. Bass...not me......

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Here, Here.......If you don't want me around you,
then why did you have me paged at the show in Orlando?
More lies Mr. Bass.....


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I see you're telling more lies Mr. Bass!

Your recollection of our conversation several years
ago at the show in Orlando is just more proof
of your lies, Mr. Bass.

Given up on monitoring, eh, Mr. Bass......
Let me interpret that for you...you got caught....
you were told to stop to keep the investigators
off your back......so you're complaining that it's
just too much work to do the billing, etc.....

Sure, Mr. Bass......Your full of lies today....

By the way...what is the statute of limitations on a
wrongful death Mr. Bass......

When did you say you're going back to Brazil.......

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I wasn't refering to suing someone Robert. Just prove these suppposed "lies"
are untrue here on this NG. This is where the accusations are coming from
and the accusations are substantiated with Public Record. Are they true or
not? It is a simple question and only requires a simple answer, "Yes" or
"No". Are these accusations all fabricated? Again, a simple question that
requires a simple answer. Did you author the "Testimony"? Simple question,
simple answer. That is what I mean by challanging these things rather than
just letting them float aroung out there.

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He is over 11 local State department locations. I am not going to bother him
with such lunacy, but I find it difficult to believe that you have all of
the doc's from the investigation, but the investigators name is no where to
be found. I told you these posts are full of kicks and giggles.
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whether
bunch of

That is why you couldn't sue anyone

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You have a copy of the report, correct? Did Mugford being a jackass make the
investigators report? Didn't think so.

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Neither plays golf, Toole's trips to the capitol don't have anything to do
with the ECLB, Toole doesn't go to ISC on a regular basis (one in the last 6
years=1 in 12), besides being a licensed contractor, he works for a national
defense contractor, so he doesn't get to travel much. Neither go to CEDIA
and neither attend after hour parties that aren't open to everyone in the
industry, so where were you going with this one?
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 For example, they told Reddinger I had commited murder.  Like I
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You just agreed that passing on info is different than making things up,
Robert. These "bald faced lies" have been left unchallanged by you. Leave
them out there and they will get passed along by those that believe they
must be true if you don't show they are false. Besides, the complaint wasn't
that you murdered someone now was it?

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I am glad you said , "passed on". Now that we have cleared up the fact that
Neely didn't make up lies about you, we can leave him out of this.

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Posts that he did not make up, but passed on from info he received from this
NG.

 You're doing your level best to convince
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him.

Well, he has gotten under you skin so bad that, if you were pulled over for
speeding, you would be convinced Mugford had something to do with it or if
this is your way of trying to get me to tell you what instigated the
complaint from Toole, you are out of luck. The reason I can find out so much
from so many different sources is that they talk to me because they have
learned that they can trust me.
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So, Mugsy is the author of the "Testimony". He dubbed the Public Records
posts, and started  all of these acquisations single handedly. Is that what
I am hearing? All of this from one very brief unsolicited, accidental
bumping into at an EHX convention. Shame on you, Norm.
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You forget that at one time you threatened to take me to court? I ask you
then if you were willing to spend alot of money to prove that you thought I
was a jackass.......well, I'm glad, if nothing else you realized it would be
an exercise in frutility to try to do anything to anyone legally involving
anything that comes out of this or any other NG.

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Yah.....she had nothing better to do that day. Musta been PMS. That should
go down as one of your most ignorant statements yet.

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You should have been home the first few times they tried to do the
investigation. Maybe the other agency's investigators, that accompanied the
DBPR investigator, would have found what **they** needed.

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A case being dimissed for the **lack of evidence** doesn't mean innocense.

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Well turn about is fair, right. FTR, you weren't present.

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Give me a break Robert, your giving yourself to much credit.

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ECLB.
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Why would that embarass him? The only thing it shows is your MO. So, we have
here your admission to going RL with people in a Public Forum.
Interesting..... because you post that everyone lies about your antics but
then you admit them to be true. Amazing. So is the other stuff that you say
are lies really true or not true?

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Since when is an investigation public until it is final? I'll bet all of the
crocks are interested in that bit of info.

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I told you before, I don't pay any attention to any of it other than for
entertainment purposes. It doesn't affect me one why or another, but it is
obvious, by not discrediting these "lies" as you put it, that they can be
used to discredit you, whether successful or not

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Would that be another "unlicensed contractor" in his area that was shut
down? Not once, but twice and is now looking at a felony charge for ignoring
the cease and desist order, for the third time, from State Attorney office.

  > >> That isn't the point.  He used his personal relationship with Toole
and
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If you didn't fall under the DBPR, why did they do an investigation on you?

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do.
Maybe

Go to Chapter 489 Part II (489.503) Exemptions. Where is that you fall under
this part? Not with just your internet sales, but the rest of what you do.

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license.


that

the

Until you put a comma in that sentence and than the whole meaning changes,
hence the grayness. AND you know as well as anyone, law is challenged
everyday due to interpetation, so how can you say that is black and white.
If so, lawyers would be not existant.


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Senate Bill 982 and House Bill 1207

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Excuse me, you aren't doing contract monitoring service? as you have stated
in these posts, yet from your website the state has a copy of your
monitoring agreement, and now you say you are billing and collecting
monitoring fees payable to an address in Florida. Are you running a
different set of books that the investigator may not have been privy of ?

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And when did you arrive at this decision?Wheww......that was close....maybe
I better quit the monitoring thing before they figure out the intent of that
Statute and come back.
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Your right.

  That would require them to
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Floridians

Your right.

Your right.

it

Why do you [snip] the complete post before you answer it? You [snipped] "to
outline character". "They may have be included in the complaint to outline
character..." Again, this information was not the basis for the complaint.
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I am not defending anyone. Just the facts. This surfaced before Mugford knew
anything about it.

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To be precise, an unlicensed competitor. It is a violation of Rule
61G6-10.002 (1) (c) of F.S. 455 not to report, to the Department, any person
who is violation of the licensing statute. Now who is spreading  information
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Neither Robert or anyone else can prove or disprove any accusations here as
far as going to trial over is concerned. Neither side will ever take
anything to court no matter what is said, mostly because I imagine it would
be laughed out of court. The only thing that is proven is the fact RLB is a
felon, beyond that it ends up being believe what you want

Most here (including me) will bitch about some of the things he says because
most of what he says is intended to get a negative response from people
(including me) to make him look like a good guy against all these "bad"
people. To me it is rather pitiful to slam an industry he was once a part of
to make a few more sales but hey it's his method of marking.

As far as the "Testimony" is concerned he will not speak about that in
public and apparently will only do so in a private conversation, this is a
rather odd stance to take since if it were my "Testimony" and it wasn't true
I'd say so, my guess is he wrote it and doesn't want to fess up to it since
if you know his true criminal record you would also know it's 90% bullshit




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Bwahahahahahahahahahhaha!!!   You gotta hand it to Robert...  He does have
"Chutspah".




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Well maybe, but its more that he uses the age old threat of, "I'll sue you",
which is so passe'. It may work with some but others know what a crock the
threat is, especially when his reasons for threatening are so laughable. I
wonder when the last time was that he had to spend his money on an attorney.
The cost may cut some of his trips to Brazil short and besides, I don't know
just how comfortable he would be in a court room, especially knowing that if
he lost, he would have to pay for the other persons legal fees. He wouldn't
want to pay my attorney's fees. It hurts every time I talk to him.
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You're absolutely right Bob.......It hurts to talk to an Attorney.

But, Mr. Bass being who he is, knows that there's a question
about whether his divorce attorney has been paid in full............

He must get a reduced rate for all the suits he thinks he can start......
Quantity discount or something like that........

If he only knew..........

He probably thinks he can use a public defender again to handle
his law suits........hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Norm







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My imagination conjures up the following  image of your first meeting with
your would be attorney.

RLB:  I'd like to sue Sabodish, he says I was involved in a car
crash in which a young woman died and that I have a criminal record that
involves assault and a firearm.
Att: Is it true?
RLB: Yes, he made those statements
Att:No, I meant are the statements made about you true?
RLB:I just said its true, he made the statements
Att:No, you don't understand, are the statements he made about you true?
RLB:I'm sorry I don't know what you are getting at
Att:Are the statements he made about you true?
RLB:What do you mean?
Att: Were you involved in a car crash?
RLB:Yes
Att: Were you driving at the time of the crash?
RLB:No, I was sleeping
Att: Did a young woman perish as a result of this car crash?
RLB:It was an accident
Att:OK, moving right along, Do you have a criminal record?
RLB: I am innocent
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:The ASA Taliban are all convicts
Att:Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB: Olson and Jim are liars
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Olsons a liar and he claims he flew a plane upside down
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB: Jims a liar and he  beats up little kids with hammers
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB: Sabodish is a liar and has spent time in a mental institution
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Tom is a liar and he wears tank tops and shouts at people
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Mugford is a lying scumbag
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Andy is a fat liar
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Graham is a drunk liar
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Installers are lying monkey's
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Mark is a liar and he had his picture taken with two monkeys
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Jack is a liar and he had his picture taken with two monkeys
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB: I'm pink
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:I make great hamburgers but I can't get anyone to eat them
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB: I take my holidays in Brazil
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:I've been in the trade 26 years
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:I've been in the trade 30 years
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:I've been in the trade 28 years
Att: Which is it?
RLB:I just told you, I've been in the trade 27 years
Att:You just said it was 28 years
RLB: Liar, I said it was 29 years
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Olson is a lying counter clerk
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:I use solid wire
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Jake is a liar and he only has one tooth
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:I've been in prison as a lay minister
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:I didn't post the "Testimony"
Att: Testimony?, is that something you wrote?
RLB:I didn't post it
Att:Did you author it?
RLB:I didn't post it
Att:OK, lets move on
RLB:OK,Bob Worthy isn't
Att: isn't what?
RLB:Worthy
Att: I see, have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Installing alarms isn't rocket science you know
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Anyone with a modicum of common sense could install alarms
Att:Do you install alarms in Florida?
RLB:No, I'm not qualified
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Larry could wire a brick
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:I wish I knew Olsons address
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:I like to accuse people of dishonesty
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:I wish I knew Jims address
Att: Have you ever been convicted of a crime in a court of law?
RLB:Nobody likes me
Att: Why do you not answer the question?
RLB:I have answered the question, you're a liar
Att: I only asked a question
RLB:You have a propensity to lie through your teeth
Att:What?
RLB:You're a liar and have no redeeming qualities
Att: Huh?
RLB:You haven't a scintilla of ethical prudence.
Att: Excuse me?
RLB:There is no excusing lying vermin like you
Att:Sorry?
RLB:You will be when I get a new attorney to sue you and the rest of the
lying filth in ASA

Doug L
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See what I mean by "Kicks and Giggles"  alt.quick.wit

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Exactly, much of this is entertaining




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I have to say that is a classic

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Doug L wrote:
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Well said, old sport.
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Thanks Doug...You made my day...
What a hoot..........

Norm


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Doug!!!  "You da man!!!"  :-))




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Absolutely hysterical!
andddddddddd you didn't abuse the letter U.



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Yo gys have absed it enogh

Dog L


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I am still laughing hard. Damn Doug you just authored the funniest post
I have ever read.
Now if you get really bored you can start a list dedicated to all the
far-fetched stories Bass ever told. One of my all-time favorites is the
one where the orthodox Jews would have Bass come to their house during
Passover so he could arm/disarm their alarm (maybe it was turn their
lights on-either way it was a doozy).
You have to go WAYYYYYYYYY back to find that story, but it still hasn't
lost it's zing for being a Bass whopper.
What was your favorite Bass baloney story (and the "Excuse me, who are
you calling white? I'm PINK" story is already spoken for)?



Re: Window Security Recommendations



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Hmmmm...  The link to your "contract form" now points to Bass-Home's
"Website Rfresh" page...  It would appear that Alarm Central is no longer
"UL Listed" (they've "overhauled" their website recently and removed any
mention of UL), nor are they members of CSAA (http://www.csaaul.org ).




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