Vista 10SE powering up in STAY mode

Hi, all

I am trying to help out a friend. His monitoring contract ran out on a Brinks system that he had installed when purchasing the house two years ago. Brinks removed a Vista 10SE, which I now want to reinstall.

It checks out okay, and the programming seems adequate for his use. I found (purchased) the instructions for putting in a new installer's code. It will accept the code, and operate just fine, UNTIL the power is removed (AC and battery). It will always come up in "STAY" mode and the new code is lost.

How do I get around this one?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Reply to
Chris Lewis
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Hmmm, don't know the answer to that one... If all else fails you can order the 10SE motherboard by itself from several sources online............ Good Luck, Russ

Reply to
Russ Brill

It "should" come up the way it went down. I've never had one lose a code though.

Reply to
Crash Gordon®

Give me a call. If all else fails, I can try to remote program the system for you.

Jim Rojas (813) 884-6335 Cell

Reply to
Jim Rojas

Try disarming with the universal ambush code.

Bossman

Reply to
Bossman

Shhhhhhhhhh that makes too much sense.

Reply to
no wires showing

Isn't that the old method of bringin up the installer code on older panels?

Reply to
Crash Gordon®

Try powering up the panel while holding the police panic keys

Reply to
Mark Leuck

I find that just cursing at it works pretty well, and threatening to trow it out da wnder.

Reply to
Crash Gordon®

That's why it's not in the user or installation manual... :)

Jim Rojas

Reply to
Jim Rojas

Mugsy prefers to replace the panel with something he knows. Presumably there is at least one panel that he knows... somewhere.

When that fails he contacts Mark Reddinger and whines. Reddinger doesn't know much either, especially about Florida statutes but that's a different issue.

Bob Worthy probably knows what I mean. :^)

Reply to
Robert L. Bass

When all else fails try the following:

Step 1 - Approach the ailing panel in a confident manner. This will give the panel the mistaken idea that you know something. This will also impress anyone who happens to be looking, and if the panel should suddenly start working, you'll be credited with its repair. If this fails to work, proceed to step two.

Step 2 - Wave the installation manual at the panel. This will make it assume that you are at least familiar with the source of knowledge. Should this fail to work, proceed to step three.

Step 3 - In a forcible manner, recite ohm's law to the panel (Caution! Before taking this drastic step, refer to a reliable book to be sure of your knowledge of Ohm's law). This will prove to the panel beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you know something. If this step fails, proceed to step four.

Step 4 - Jar the panel slightly. This may require anything from a three to six foot drop. However, you must be careful with this step because while jarring is an approved method of repair, you must not mar the floor. (The owner of the panel must not be allowed to watch this technique being applied). This is a very drastic method. If it fails, proceed to step five.

Step 5 - Brandish a large Phillips screwdriver in a menacing manner. This will frighten the panel and demonstrate your knowledge of the deadly "short circuit" repair technique. If this fails, proceed to step six.

Step 6 - Manually bypass a zone or device... Even if the circuit is fine. This will prove that you are familiar with the panels design. This will confuse the panel and thereby increase your advantage. If this doesn't work, proceed to the most drastic and dangerous step. It is seldom needed and is a final resort if all else fails.

Reply to
Jim Rojas

And you sell panels you know very little about, seldom recommend or answer questions on, and have no actual experience installing... Your customers frequently complain they can't get ahold of you... Hmmmm... Somehow I doubt "Mugsy" has much to worry about with your particular business model... or your opinions...

Reply to
Frank Olson

Sigmund Freud wouldn't know what you mean. Look at your fat ass trying to instigate trouble between Bob Worthy and Norm Mugford. Here we go.......... Bass will now proclaim in-depth conversations with Bob Worthy. I have obtained a transcript of their conversation.

Ringgggggggggg Ringgggggggggggg Ringgggggggggggg

BW- "Hello?"

Bass- "Um Yes I am looking for Bob Worthy who posts to ASA"

BW- "Yes I am Bob Worthy how can I help you?"

Bass- "This is Robert Bass and I'd like to be pals"

BW- "Kay? Oh no speekuh ummm Kay. No habla"

Bass- "but you just said you were Bob Worthy"

BW- "No comprende"

CLICK

Ringgggggggggg Ringggggggggg Ringgggggggggg

BW- "hello?"

Bass- "Bob this is Robert Bass what........'

BW- "Harrow Misstuh Charlieson you wantee Poke Flied Lice wiff uh Brockerie?"

Bass- "Huh? Is this Bob Worthy?"

BW - "You no wan Poke Flied Lice mebbe you ront uh Rite Lice"

Bass- "Excuse me, who are you calling RITE? I'm PRINK"

CLICK

Ringggggggggggggg Ringggggggggggggggg Ringgggggggg

BW- "Hello?"

Bass- "Bob is that you? Bob I need to pretend we actually talk and........"

BW- "Umma gowwa Binga Boonga Mollie Wallie"

Bass- "Oh I'm sorry I must have speed dialed the in-laws by mistake......."

CLICK

Ringggggggggg......... Ringggggggggggg............ Ringggggggggggg

BW- "Hello?"

Bass- "Hi this is Jim Rojas how are you?"

BW- " Jim Rojas? You sound an awful lot like Robert Bass"

Bass- "Did I say Jim Rojas? I am so sorry this is Larry Roberts, a close friend of Mike Sabodish"

BW- "You still sound an awful lot like Bass. Do you mind if I ask you just one question to prove you're not Robert Bass?"

Bass- "ummmm OK"

BW- "Are you White?"

Bass- "Excuse me, who are you calling white? I'm PINK"

CLICK

30 minutes later a post appears in ASA authored by Bass (he had to take a snack break if you were wondering about the time lapse)

Bass- "After a detailed, and informative conversation with my good pal Bob Worthy, as well as local suppliers, I have ascertained that Norm Mugford is actually Norma Jean Mugford. Norma has incessantly stalked Bob Worthy, and made sexual advances, but I'm no gossip monger. Bob is a frequent guest at my home and he adores my famous cheeseburgers. He's often commented on how they remind me of the Double Cheeseburger from MCDonalds, but I told him they are worlds apart and to pay no mind to the wrapper as I use that only to keep flies away. Bob and I are now combining our buying power to force Ademco tech support to field calls from me without laughing when I ask them what the * and # keys are for on the keypad. And for what it's worth, I'm not white, I'm PINK!"

1/2 a Shalom

Robert Bass

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Mom's House Sarasota, FL

Reply to
no wires showing

Perhaps not, but I'm sure he'd have an interesting time figuring you out.

Wrong again. Mugsy was the instigator. Reddinger carried out the RL attack. The reason Bob knows is Ronald Toole cc'd him three e-mail messages which he sent to Reddinger and Neely (a state employee) beforehand. The messages were dated June 24 and July 1, 2004.

There was a series of e-mails between Ronald Toole and Mark Reddinger. Toole used to live at 153 Richpien Rd., Fort Walton Beach. He may have since moved and changed his phone number. His state license number -- EFA000925 -- still indicates the same address though.

Wrong again. About the only communications I've had with Bob Worthy outside this newsgroup have been a couple of clients I referred to him. We've never spoken about Reddinger, Toole or the e-mails he sent to Bob. I received a print-out though not from Bob.

The good part about this was that these jerks used the exact same argument that Olson and several other ASA morons used -- that by being in Florida I need a Florida license to provide out-of-state services. The state investigator looked into it and determined that I don't need a license to sell online or to contract with clients located outside Florida for services rendered by an out-of-state central station. Basically, he said exactly what I've been telling these morons for years.

A small side benefit was showing a state investigator tons of vitriolic filth posted by none other than Norm Mugford. He was aghast at the vile, inappropriate behavior of a clearly biased state official. Needless to say, his investigation left a very bad impression of Mugford among state employees in the DBPR. Whether they actually do anything about Mugford or just put up with him because no other alarm installer wants to spend the time sitting on the ECLB to replace him is another matter. Unfortunately, there are very few people in the industry who are willing to do it. Only Mugford, who hopes to capitalize on his position by telling prospective vict ....er, customers that he's a board member, is currently available. Perhaps if the ECLB paid a living wage they could hire someone with actual qualifications instead of that vulgar, miserable vermin who ought not to be allowed anywhere near a state office.

Other than that, Norm is almost as despicable but not quite as dishonest as you, Fowler. :^)

Reply to
Robert L. Bass

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Yeah the conspiracy to take down the Bass Home conglomerate was hatched at State HQ. Everyone is plotting against you. If you weren't such an egotistal f***ss your paranoia would shine thru.

which he sent to Reddinger and Neely (a state employee) beforehand. The messages were dated June 24 and July 1, 2004.

There was a series of e-mails between Ronald Toole and Mark Reddinger. Toole used to live at 153 Richpien Rd., Fort Walton Beach. He may have

since moved and changed his phone number. His state license number --

EFA000925 -- still indicates the same address though. <

Lemme guess, you planted a mole inside their organization?

this newsgroup have been a couple of clients I referred to him.<

Referrals from you? Mommy decided to drop you and search for a reputable provider? All of these clients you sent Bob's way must have him rolling in dough.

Is it from the same source that told you I spent time in a New Mexico prison, or from the source that told you my company wasn't licensed? Here's the clue again fatty.... Milford Alarm INC. See that INC.? Here's another clue....... Robert Toth. You're such a dope.

that Olson and several other ASA morons used -- that by being in Florida I need a Florida license to provide out-of-state services. The state investigator looked into it and determined that I don't need a license to sell online or to contract with clients located outside Florida for services rendered by an out-of-state central station. Basically, he said exactly what I've been telling these morons for years.<

Listen 1/2 a Weinstein you DON'T (see that?) need a license to SELL equipment in Florida, but when you venture into SERVICE then a license is required. Being that you're a convicted felon you're unable to obtain a Florida license. You're breaking the very same laws you accused me of breaking. Here's the difference, nobody believes your claims against me, and we all know the claims against you are fact. Your attempt at spin does nothing but add more comedy to your usual baloney.

filth posted by none other than Norm Mugford. He was aghast at the vile, inappropriate behavior of a clearly biased state official.<

Post the name and the # of this "aghast" individual. Let's verfiy it. Hell, I'll record the call and post it in here for all to hear.

Like everything that eminates from your vocal chords

employees in the DBPR. Whether they actually do anything about Mugford or just put up with him because no other alarm installer wants to spend the time sitting on the ECLB to replace him is another matter.<

Once again state officials agree with Robert Bass, and his total disregard for the law. You just have that political mojo. You're the power broker in the industry. The EF Hutton of alarms. We're all in awe of the stroke you have in this business. You and your 2 panel a month operation just bring Mugford's associates to worship at your feet.

Just force them to do it. Use the force Obi One Baloney.

So Mugford's clients are victims? Let's see, the newsgroup regulars who victimize clients are now:

Me (I love being first) Mike Jim Alarmin Norm Mugford Andy Bowman Mark Mazzarese Jake Ashbury Frank Olsen Rodney Mikey Jack Stevens Robert Skinner wait this list takes too long. Let's post the list of people you claim are top notch:

Robert Campbell (who is thrilled he lives in Canada so you will never visit)

Jim Rojas (who has promised to give you a swift kick in the ass)

Bob Worthy (who probably purchased Caller ID to avoid your calls)

if the ECLB paid a living wage they could hire someone with actual qualifications instead of that vulgar, miserable vermin who ought not to be allowed anywhere near a state office.<

A living wage? Is this from the assknocker who sells tube tops on his alarm website to earn a few extra bucks, or is it from the 50 some odd year old douchebag who had to live with mommy after the divorce because expenses were too high?

you, Fowler. :^)<

How many police background checks have you passed lately? I bet the following line was honest too. "Excuse me, who are you calling white? I'm PINK!"

Reply to
no wires showing

Egotistical was the word. Typo city tonight.

Reply to
no wires showing

Naah. They gave it their best shot and missed by a mile.

Nope. Just a couple of Mugford's drinking buddies.

Totally unnecesary, jerk. The state investigator forwarded everything to me in an envelop along with his decision that their claims were without merit. "RL attack dismissed."

Yep. Ask Bob Worthy.

I think there were only two or three. I never asked afterward I hope he got some business from them.

You wish. Truth is I don't recall if we ever spoke by phone or if it was e-mail. I know he told me what his service area is because I planned to send him an occasional client.

Nope. An agent with the CT Dept of Consumer Protection told me you were unlicensed. He told me you had applied for a permit as a "home improvement contractor" which does not require a license. You were engaged in alarm installation contracting -- a licensed trade -- and you even admitted you didn't have the license.

Incorporation does nothing to obviate the requirement of a license. Connecticut doesn't license corporations. It is you who were operating as an unlicensed contractor. Toth didn't agree to sign for you until long after you began installing. At no time did you ever apply for a license in Connecticut.

That's like Sabodish saying I'm uneducated. :^)

Since I don't service alarms in Florida the state agrees with me that I don't need a Florida license. Feel free to play again.

Wrong again. I could and would get a Florida license if I wanted to install. However, I wouldn't even consider taking the pay cut. I make more in one day selling online than most installer make in a week -- even crooked scam artists like you.

The state of Florida sayds you're wrong.

I don't have his number but you can look it up easily enough. It's a public record, available online if you know where to look.

Go right ahead... not that you'd ever publicly admit finding out how wrong you are.

Ummm, this is a text medium.

I'm still here doing the same business I was years ago when you and several other morons claimed I was going to be shut down "any day now".

Not quite but I'll wager I do more business than you asnd half the other members of the IB.

I wondered what he was doing down there. :^)

Naah. It's more fun watching Mugford do his imitation of a Keystone Cop high on amphetamines.

Bob has promised to visit one of these days. He's one of the few here with whom I'd associate.

Think so?

Speaking of fundamental misunderstanding.

Care to guess how much they pay? It's pretty pathetic but then again, you might be impressed with the amount.

You've got an ADI account (finally). Ask your rep. They get about 1/3 of my total business.

Reply to
Robert L. Bass

Never said that. What I did say is that you need a Florida license to provide service *in Florida* which you have on several occasions clearly admitted to doing (this includes layout, design and "instructional services"). You've even admitted to providing actual hands-on service, the latest one being the supposed "removal" of a Brinks panel. I just love the way you twist words, Robert. Do please continue...

Reply to
Frank Olson

Did you also show him some of the posts you've made where-in you alluded to individuals you don't like being child molesters, racists, liars, and "using company resources to perform illegal credit checks"??

Reply to
Frank Olson

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