Any one else noticing that Ultratech batteries sold at ADI do not seem to hold up as well as other brands.?
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14 years ago
Any one else noticing that Ultratech batteries sold at ADI do not seem to hold up as well as other brands.?
How long are you seeing them last?
Yep..... I get about 3 years tops on most of them. If I spot one in service when on a call, I replace it whether it needs it or not. I'll never use them again. I use only "Genesis". So far so good.
Yes. I only use Genesis, formerly Yuassa. However, I replaced a Genesis NP7-12 today that was less than 3 years old. Hmmmm...
I've never used one in a holdup. :^)
For a long time ADI had the UT-1270 "on sale". Now they're selling Yuasa (Genesis) for less than the sale price of the Ultratechs. Go figure.
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I have been getting 2 or less years while the yushua I have gotten 3-5 or better
I hope that's not an indication for the rest of us. When Ultratech batteries went on sale at the distributors our price automatically Dropped as well. We were getting as many as a dozen battery orders a day.
Fortunately, some of our larger clients stayed with ELK and Yuasa. Last year we got multiple orders for several hundred each of 7 AH, 8 AH and 17 AH batteries. All went to a museum in Washington DC. The place is amazing, by the way. They have hundreds of separate alarm systems, their own central station and CCTV systems that rival those in use by the Homeland Security.
They suck. We were getting only 2 years out of them...and they were always bulged out when we replaced them. I won't use them anymore.
yep...even Genesis aren't like they used to be...but still better than UltraTech.
"Crash Gordon" wroteL
Other the the old (pre-Genesis) Yuasa, the best ones I've used are ELK. We put then in a lot of panels in CT and they invariably beat the 5-year "normal" life span.
I use nothing but ELK nowadays.
Jim Rojas
We use Intepower batteries (V-Cell) and haven't experienced the quality control issues a lot of you guys have run in to. In fact, I've seen some go as long as seven years.
It's critical that the charger meets the battery's specifications for float voltage to ensure maximum life from the product. However, some of the cheaper brands of batteries out there are poorly designed and will vent improperly (or they're using substandard materials in the construction) which reduces their lifespan considerably.
It's also important to know how to properly test a battery so you can ensure your customer is getting what he's paying for.
I bought a case of 5 and 8 Ah last year and half read bad after being in service less than a year. very bad batch.
I don't believe you. I've had many years of good service from ELK and I've seen you post things even you don't believe.
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Yuasa is back in business. They had a booth at the ISC East and said they were distributing through Alarmax in my area. Alarmax has a number of distribution points so you might want to inquire if your interested.
Yuasa is back in business. ..
Do you know it it's the same quality as before? They might just be rebranding something cheap.
You DO realize Elk doesn't actually make those batteries right?
Well, this is what I got from the booth attendent at the show and from recent literature I received.
They were rather circuitous when I tried to pin them down on how they were back using the Yuasa name. It seemed as if they were trying to avoid coming up with a straight forward answer. Could be because they were Asian, with an accent but, I didn't think so.
However!
I just got literature in the mail today.
From the literature: Quote.
During the ISC show we received numerous questions related to our relationship with Enersys. Following is a summary of the situation;
In January of 2009 Yuasa Battery, Inc. ended its supply agreement with EnerSys, Inc.
Yuasa no longer supplies any Genesis or Enersys branded product to Enersys.
Yuasa Battery, Inc. has reentered the direct to distributor and direct to OEM markets.
"If it doesn't say Yuasa on the outside " it's not Yuasa on the inside"
We look forward to supporting your battery requirements. If you have any question, please call us at 201 535 8800
Best Regards Doug Pierce Vice President Industrial batteries End Quote
Their website is
On additional literature it says .... in part
After much consideration, Yuasa Battery, Inc, decided that beginning in January 2009 it would no longer privately lable batteries manufactured by Yuasa and sold in the North American market. Yuasa has re- entered the direct to distributor and direct to OEM markets after ending a lengthy relationship with EnerSys Inc., a move that was prcipitated by diminishing licensed sales over the last two years. In fact, if you bought a battery within the last year, it's highly unlikely that it was manufactured at the Yuasa plant. Moving forward, if the product you purchase doesn't say yuasa on the outside, it's not Yuasa on the inside. (end of literature content)
For years, I've been buying the Genisis at the higher price because I was told it was just Yuasa under a different name. And in spite of the ADI people consitantly reminding me that the others were cheaper. And in spite of other installers saying that if they don't last as long so what, it's just more income for battery changes.
I have no way of knowing if their quality is the same as it was before but I'm hoping it is. I'm switching back. As I said, I've already shipped some to my clients.
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