Trying to wrap my head around it

Just installed a focus panel with a new zone added - "Movable Instant PIR". Unless of course the motion covers an entry path, then you have to make it "Movable Delay".

What was wrong with the good old, "Interior Follower"?

I can't imagine what that might indicate ....."movable instant PIR" ?

Is it just a follower zone or something different?

Took me a while to figure it out.

If a zone responds the same way whether the system is armed or not, it is "Fixed". If it responds differently it is "movable".

A 24 hr point, even if it is just a trouble by day, is "fixed". A regular burg zone that doesn't alarm when the system is disarmed, is "movable". For some reason adt did away with the follower zone on the Focus panel. Motions either have a delay, or they don't.

Quite a few of the adt techs say they program everything with a delay.

I just came across a system a few months ago that had every zone a delay zone. I forget who's it was. Amazing what some of these installation companys do. But I've got to put some of the blame on the end user too. I'f they'd only do their home work ... shit like that wouldn't happen.

I think that it's very convenient that ADT uses the Focus panel. When the disatisfied end user is asked what ADT did to them .... all they end user has to say is ...... Focus!

Heh-heh

What do they do to us subcontractors? ... Focus!

The Focus panel isn't all bad though. I do like the ATM style keypad, lots convenient features from a service perspective. Some PITA issues too - Quite a few things can only be done through hex programming.

I've been putting in quite a few Vista-128's for them recently. Usually on hybrid systems but occasionally (like the job I'm on now) It's to monitor a sprinkler riser. One smoke, one horn (external) and where is the pull station you might ask... If you did, you would be told that we are going to wait for the AHJ to tell us to put it in - which most don't.

Dang! I started this post all laughy and now I'm gettin' disillusioned again.

LOL - Fire Marshall was on site today to look at the sprinklers. Three guesses as to what he is requiring to be added to the job? First two guesses don't count...

1 A pull station 2 A pull station 3 A heat detector!

LOL - Boss says I don't pull a foot of wire until adt gives him a job number - and I haven't gotten one as of this afternoon.

We keep getting screwed on those "get it done, paperwork to follow" deals. Boss says, "No more free work..."

Yeah I'm going through that right now with an electrician I met on a job. He was working on another job and the builder asked him if he could install and alarm. He couldn't so he asked me if I wanted to do it to help him out. I said sure and he said he'd pay me and he'd bill the builder. ( I figured he's going to make a few bucks on the job ..... Ok with me since I quoted my regular price.) I pre wired the house in one day, took me 12 hours all by my self, worked till

9:00 PM at nite because they were insulating in the morning. It's been 4 weeks now and still no check.

You'd think that after all these years I'd be smart enough to not give a damn and not try to help someone out.

However, I've left my self a couple off ways to access the house. I'll keep an eye on the progress and if ultimately I don't get the check, I can get in to cut all the wires off at all the openings and at the panel.

Don't f*ck with Jim.

It's "cheque", you old curmudgeon. You "check" out a nice pair. You cash a "cheque" at the bank.

"Honour" your "neighbour" and all that...

So, yesterday morning I'm in the ADT office checking to see if they have the rest of my parts (another issue - don't get me started).

I ask our contact if he's got a job for that pull station so I can get started on it. He asks why it isn't done, I tell him what the boss told me. I also remind him that the customer was granted temp occupancy based on the promise of a finished fire alarm by the 11th.

Two hours later, the salesman shows up on the job with a pull station and a rider for the customer to sign.

I know where it's going and that I'm going to have to pull up a sheet of plywood from the mezzanine floor to get it. One nearly sprained finger later I'm feeling around for the top plate under all the blown in insulation between the 2' deep scissor trusses. Oh, there it is, with a

10 inch hvac supply duct running along on top of it.

Gotta admit to giving in to a little frustration. It had enough play that I only had to bend it a little bit and after I ran the wire I was able to get it 'mostly' round again...

Oh yeah, customer only has one potts line and got permission from the ahj to use a T1 - voip line for the back up. According the T1 provider there is no way to get line seizure. Customer has to get an "Analog Terminal Adapter" and dedicate one of their voip numbers to the alarm panel - and they are recommending that we do not do it. But, apparently we are...

System is done, tested and working except for the trouble on dialer 2 but nothing can be done about that until the customer has the gear.

Now if I can finish up the card access and CCTV out there today, everyone will be happy...

That's as much difference as there is between a left hand check mark and a right hand check mark. I kant hep it if uoo done no how to spel.

Honour/ honor ? I doon nee no steenking honor ..... mon!