Letís say I buy an ELK-M1 Gold panel Ė then what?

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I am planning to buy an ELK-M1 Gold panel, to replace an old panel I
have that is connected to the doors/windows/motion sensors etc.
Then I would be programming the ELK-M1 to do some basic security and
some automation functions.
My question is: how would I go about establishing a monitoring
service?
If I contact a local alarm company, will they say: we have not
installed the panel, we don't know how it works, and we cannot provide
monitoring service for you.

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Leo wrote:

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If they don't say that, they'll want to program their own CS information
into your system and more than likely ask you to relinquish the
installer code during the course of your contract with them.

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Frank Olson wrote:
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A DIY'er with an Elk M1?
Nice
I don't know about Elk, but many other manufacturers will not give out
software to "unqualified" individuals. BUT there are some here who will
do anything for a buck.
Many Central Stations will not risk the liability of monitoring an
account that was not installed by a qualified or licensed individual,
and refuse to do it. AGAIN there are some here that will do that for a
Buck and a half.
Sorry Olson- not all C.S.'s ask for "installer codes" or for that matter
program their own info.

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secure15 wrote:
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Some DIYer's are pretty damn smart.  They've spent two hours on the
phone with a "nimrod" in Sarasota and know "everything" about installing
and programming their systems.  :-)


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The manufacturers sell to wholesalers and distributors.  These sell to
alarm companies, Dealers, and online stores.  Getting the software to
program his system is a "no brainer".


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Some of the CS's that do provide this service (to DIYer's) sell a
proprietory dialer they have to install/attach to their alarm system.
Like "Next Alarm" for instance (https://nextalarm.com/qualify.jsp ).
Don't get your "feathers in a knot".


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I wasn't talking about C.S.'s.  I was responding to the gentleman's
question regarding his "contacting a local alarm company".  You may need
stronger reading glasses.

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Frank Olson wrote:
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AND YOU MAY NEED TO CHECK ON HOW AND WHAT YOU WRITE!

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secure15 wrote:


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In reference to what??

OK...  To simplify this whole thing, let's try and get back into the
context of the OP's question so you can understand what I meant.

The OP wrote:

"If I contact a local alarm company, will they say: we have not
installed the panel, we don't know how it works, and we cannot provide
monitoring service for you."

To which I responded:

"If they don't say that, they'll want to program their own CS
information into your system and more than likely ask you to relinquish
the installer code during the course of your contract with them."

What I should have said (to avoid confusing "secure15") is this:

"If the alarm company you choose doesn't say that, they'll more than
likely want to program the information into your system that will enable
it to communicate with the Central Station provider they use.  You will
more than likely be required to surrender your access to installer level
programming for the duration of the monitoring contract.  In addition to
this, they will also more than likely insist on inspecting your
installation."


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Frank Olson wrote:
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THAT clarifies your comments!

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secure15 wrote:

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We can now resume our normal scheduled programming.  :-)

Re: Letís say I buy an ELK-M1 Gold panel Ė then what?
thank you for the explanation - it's all quite clear now.

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:25:10 GMT, Frank Olson

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Re: Let's say I buy an ELK-M1 Gold panel - then what?

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Try Nick Lawrence here...

http://www.911alarm.com /




Re: Let's say I buy an ELK-M1 Gold panel - then what?
From:    Leo - view profile
Date:    Thurs, Aug 24 2006 8:43 pm
Groups: alt.security.alarms

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Hi Leo,

Plenty of DIYers who have the ELK-M1 system are being monitored by
professional alarm monitoring firms.  Although the majority of
monitoring firms won't deal directly with a DIYer (or any other end
user) many do monitor DIY systems under contract with local dealers.

The trick is to find a dealer who is willing to work with you.  Some
dealers are hard-headed and won't even talk to you.  Others will
monitor a system as long as they can lock you out of programming the
system (beware of these deales; you may have difficulty getting them to
relinquish control upon termination, even if you've paid in full).
Still others will work with you as long as they can check the system to
make sure there's nothing screwy in the setup.  Finally, there are
Internet dealers who offer monitoring service, typically through third
party central stations.  Prices vary widely so shop around.

One gentleman expressed concern over whether you could get and use the
ELK software to program the system.  Don't worry about that.  ELK will
provide it with the control panel if requested.  The software is free.

ELK Products is different from most alarm manufacturers in that they
actively support DIY end users.  While they prefer you obtain tech
support from your product vendor, they will talk to you directly if you
ask.  On occasion you can even speak to an ELK engineer.

Regards,
Robert L Bass
Bass Burglar Alarms
www.BassBurglarAlarms.om


Re: Let's say I buy an ELK-M1 Gold panel - then what?
thank you very much for the comprehensive reply


On 26 Aug 2006 08:13:55 -0700, robertlbass@comcast.net wrote:

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Re: Let's say I buy an ELK-M1 Gold panel - then what?
... another job for www.MyAlarm.com ...

Cheers ...

Dave

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