How Does the New Health Care Reform Bill Affect Your Business ???

I have geared down the last several years. Basically I try to only sell as much work as I can do by myself. I can see the additional burden of this being a problem for new and growing businesses though. Basically making it that much harder to break into business and further protecting those who "have" from those who "can do."

Reply to
Bob La Londe
Loading thread data ...

Your business will be unaffected by the legislation. There's no requirement for such small businesses to participate. However, the new law will make it impossible for your insurance company to drop you if you become sick. It will also guarantee you access to health insurance even if you become sick before you apply.

One issue that's not getting as much press as it should is the matter of prescription prices. With the public option the federal government will be able to use its bargaining power to negotiate better prices for your medication. The new law will also close the so-called "doughnut hole" that hobbles millions of older Americans with thousands of dollars in Rx costs per year. Many of these people, retirees who have worked all their lives and paid their taxes, find they now have to choose between medicing they need to survive and food or rent.

Young, healthy people may not care but their time will come and when it does they'll be glad we finally did something about the healthcare mess we're in today.

It may seem that way if you only read the headlines or listen to sound bites on the news. Reading the statute, you'll find there's a lot of protection for small businesses and startups. This is going to be a very good thing for America.

Reply to
Robert L Bass

The bill will not pass the Senate (which is a different bill than just passed the House)

Consider all the other failing programs created by the federal government

Welfare Medicare Social Security Fannie Mae Freddie Mac Post Office

All failing, bloated and impossible to fix or eliminate due to politics. Regardless of who is in charge whoever thinks this will save money is a fool, the cost burden will be passed off to all businesses who will then pass it off to the consumer or go out of business

Reply to
mleuck

aman brother

The bill will not pass the Senate (which is a different bill than just passed the House)

Consider all the other failing programs created by the federal government

Welfare Medicare Social Security Fannie Mae Freddie Mac Post Office

All failing, bloated and impossible to fix or eliminate due to politics. Regardless of who is in charge whoever thinks this will save money is a fool, the cost burden will be passed off to all businesses who will then pass it off to the consumer or go out of business

Reply to
RockyTSquirrel

I read only businesses with a payroll of more that 500K/annum are required to offer insurance to employees.

Reply to
G. Morgan

Just because those programs don't make a profit, does not mean "failure".

Not everything is (or should be) for-profit.

Reply to
G. Morgan

Aman??? As in J.R.R. Tolkien?

That's what they said about the House version and yet...

It's only "failing" if you expected welfare to change lives. Welfare is nothing more than a means of keeping people from starving. To that end it's modestly effective. Its *stated* goals are not attainable and never were.

Medicare is the most popular federal entitlement program in US history. Those who have it love it. The program needs fixing and better funding (especially after repeated attempts by the Repugnant Party to destroy it. Have no fear though. Obama is here. :^)

That's another modestly successful program. It does what it's intended to do -- provide financial assistance to retired Americans. It's not enough to live on in most parts of the country but those who have it uniformly appreciate that monthly stipend. Like with Medicare, SS needs better funding. Fortunately the Bushies were stopped in their effort to invest Social Security in the market, effectively privatizing the whole thing. Imagine how much worse things would be today if the Repugnants had allowed Social Security to be destroyed during the market collapse -- itself 100% the fault of Repugnant financial policies.

These federal mortgage programs have helped tens of thousands, perhaps millions of Americans buy their own homes. Had the Bush administration and the Repugnant party not worked hand-in-pocket with Wall Street thugs to devastate the economy (all the while giving themselves hundreds of millions of dollars in bonus checks and bribes to the Bushies) both programs would be fine today. Now the Obama administration is tasked with repairing the colossal mess the Repugnants left us with and what do these right-wing morons do? Complain that Obama hasn't made everything OK in his first year in office. This they do while fighting him rotting tooth and putrified nail at every step.

The US Post Office, for all its problems, is one of the most efficient quasi-governmental agencies of its kind, world wide. By comparison, try to get FedEx to move a letter across the country in three days for $0.42 (or whatever it is these days).

Actually, most were doing a lot better before Bush and his goons stole the 2000 election. With the Fox running the chicken coop for 8 consecutive years it's a wonder we have any government programs at all.

The fact is that the present healthcare system is terribly broken. Tens of millions of Americans are unable to obtain proper healthcare, can't afford prescription medication and end up in emergency rooms due to infections and other illnesses rather than being able to visit a primary care physician for timely treatment. The cost of providing healthcare to these Americans is already being borne by small businesses, large businesses and finally, consumers. The idea is to make proper health insurance available so people can be treated before they need the hospital -- at reasonable cost.

Whether the program will save money long-term is debatable, particularly since the final bill is yet to be shaped. What is known for certain is that if we do nothing we will consign the next generation to far greater cost and worsening quality of care.

Reply to
Robert L Bass

That is the difference. Some of us actually read these bills. Others just repeat what they hear on Faux Noise.

Reply to
Robert L Bass

Jesus.

Reply to
alarman

What a fool believes.

Reply to
alarman

:

Again, they are bloated failed programs that are unsustatinable and going broke, it has nothing to do with profit

Reply to
mleuck

Senate passage requires a 60 vote passage, much more difficult

Welfare currently costs 600 billion for that program who's goals are not attainable

Medicare was started in the mid 60's and the claim by the CBO is that it will only cost 10 billion in 25 years, in reality it was over 110 billion, it''s now 426 billion

Remember that word "assistance", it was started to give a small bonus to the elderly and instead it's now 608 billion

Yes and congressional meddling during the 90's helped cause the housing bubble and crash

And it lost 4.7 billion last year and it can't compete with UPS and FeDex

And the fix isn't to create another bloated unsustainable program which will dwarf those already in place

But you won't have to pay for it so it doesn't really matter does it?

Reply to
mleuck

I seriously doubt you've read the bill that the House just passed as it was only posted less than 24 hours before being voted on

Reply to
mleuck

"Robert L Bass" wrote in news:ZpqdnXIgMMO1JWXXnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

It has had adequate funding. the problems arise when we let the congresscritters get away with putting the money in the general fund instead of in the SS bankaccount.

Reply to
motley me

What a fool you are if you believe that.

Better funding than 15% of an employee's gross pay? If I had been able to invest that myself over my lifetime of work, you can be sure that money would still be there.

Reply to
alarman

You're right. That is a problem, but it's not the only one. Due to changing demographics, the Social Security fund would need more funding even without the diversions. We'll deal with that and several other problems after we pass healthcare reform legislation.

Reply to
Robert L Bass

You think so but that's of no consequence.

If you had properly invested what you had, even without being given a pass on Social Security, you'd be well off enough that it wouldn't be an issue. The fact that you're still working tells us you don't know enough about the market to take care of your own needs. Furthermore, left to their own devices most people would not set 15% aside every year for the future. Social Security is a reasonable means of helping people save who otherwise would not do so, thereby winding up on the public dole when they retired.

The Repugnant party fought against Social Security and Medicare when they were first being considered. Under Bush II they tried unsuccessfully to gut Social Security, cut Medicare, etc. Now that the American public has seen how horrible these thugs are, they've replaced them with Democrats who will try to fix the mess the Repugnants made.

To put it in words that Stevens can understand, "They's a she'f in town" :^)

Reply to
Robert L Bass

He's not for profit either, though a few Repugnant phony preachers have gotten rich on Him.

Reply to
Robert L Bass

What a moron believes Faux Noise.

Reply to
Robert L Bass

The only thing that keeps the post office going is junk mail...so expect the same from other gov products :-)

Reply to
Crash Gordon

Cabling-Design.com Forums website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.