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On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 5:01:29 AM UTC-4, H. VIEW wrote:

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what a great chance to buy some cheap crap to sell to my customers. I just  
love it when they call me up a few months after installation telling me the
 equipment doesn't work. And I have to tell them that I'm sorry I bought so
me cheap crap on the INternet from some unknown company.  

OBOY O BOY!!!!!

"Jim Davis"  wrote in message  

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 5:01:29 AM UTC-4, H. VIEW wrote:


OBOY O BOY!

what a great chance to buy some cheap crap to sell to my customers. I just  
love it when they call me up a few months after installation telling me the  
equipment doesn't work. And I have to tell them that I'm sorry I bought some  
cheap crap on the INternet from some unknown company.

OBOY O BOY!!!!!

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As I was phasing out I had good luck with HikVsion for IP cameras upto 3MP  
and NVRs  Never tried their 4MP cameras.  Also had decent luck with Digital  
Watchdog for analog and HD over coax.  DW had to have HD over coax in pairs  
or it would revert to the res of the lower camera for both in the pair, but  
it would recognize just about any over coax camera and work with its highest  
resolution.  Not just their own cameras.  Both HIK and DW often required a  
system update right out of the box to work properly, but then would work  
fine.

Sadly as cool as 3MP HikVision cameras were people have been spoiled by the  
lies on television about CCTV and were often not as impressed as I was.

DW had better night vision (starlight capable) and head light masking.  Hik  
had better (much better) WDR from daylight to shadow.  Both were ok within  
the range of their illuminators.  Hik cameras tended to be a little cheaper.

Never used any DW IP cameras or NVRs.

I do have a DW license plate camera installed at my shop, and I am very much  
not impressed.  Their one big failing IMO.  Maybe it would work better if I  
switched it from the DDM DVR to the DW DVR, but nothing in the specs says it  
needs the processing power of the DVR to work properly.

I never had good luck trying cheap cameras, but I kept an eye on the  
features.  Quite often over the years I saw features and capabilities in  
those el cheapo cameras that later were implemented in what I considered the  
"bang for your buck" price range of cameras.  I also noticed over the years  
that the "bang for your buck" price range slowly drifted down from around  
$500-600 to $200-300.  You can get a heck of a camera for a couple hundred  
bucks these days.

On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 12:55:11 PM UTC-4, Bob La Londe wrote:

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Yeah, after a lot of years of trial and error I've pretty much zeroed in on
 Hikvision for my IP installs. I've been inching my way up from 2MP a few y
ears ago to 3, 4 and 5MP when needed as the prices come down. Mostly doing  
4MP now. Just did a residence with an 8MP single camera which was perfect f
or what he wanted to do.
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I always spend a good deal of time up front, telling the  prospect what cam
eras CAN'T do. I have a lens calculator app on my laptop and I show them wh
at distance/height/width the camera is going to see. I had to do that becau
se of exactly what you said. They expect to be able to see someone's wristw
atch in the reflection of another persons sunglasses 6 blocks away ?
?? unless you head them off prior to the sales presentation. I ha
ve to say, that I lose a fair number of jobs because of my explanation, how
ever I'd rather lose the job then have them have high expectations and then
 think I sold them a crap system. I've even been called in by a couple of p
eople who have had others install their cameras, wanting me to "evaluate" t
he quality of the job. All have been fair to good installs ??
? it's just their original expectations were higher than what they would  
have been  economically willing to pay for.    
.  
Only time I do analog now is with an upgrade on a job with coax ?.  
which are getting fewer in between. Pretty much all the main mfg's 1080P an
alog product is pretty good and to the client, they are always amazed at th
e difference between the old analog cameras and the 1080P analog cameras. "
I" know it's not as good as an IP camera ?.. but they don't. And th
ey don't want to pay for the IP over coax hardware or for laying in new net
work wiring anyway.

Hikvision's new P2P process for linking up to the phone app is piece of cak
e compared to the old port forwarding. I never felt good about going into s
omeone's router. I don't know how many other mfg's are using P2P at this po
int.

I've got a job I'm working on now with a residential CCTV system where the  
previous guy (who's now gone) was able to get four IP cameras going into a  
NVR, two network cameras and 5 WiFi cameras all able to be seen on the Hikv
ision  IVMS 4500 iPhone app. I have to do some work on the system and I'm l
ooking forward to finding out how he did that.  

On 9/11/2018 6:08 PM, Jim Davis wrote:



I still use IP Cam Viewer Pro for Android.  It will hook to hundreds of  
different platforms simultaneously.  I don't think Robert ever wrote a  
version for Apple though.  I can have DVRs, NVRs, and IP Cameras all  
from different manufacturers all on screen at the same time.  Doesn't  
have playback capability though.  Just live stream.  Last time I bought  
a license for a customer it was $5.00.  Robert is constantly updating it  
to connect with more different equipment.  About every other time I  
start the software there is an update.

On 9/11/2018 9:30 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:











ROFLMAO

Les

On 9/11/2018 6:55 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
 > On 9/11/2018 9:30 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
 >>> I've got a job I'm working on now with a residential CCTV system  
where the previous guy (who's now gone) was able to get four IP cameras  
going into a NVR, two network cameras and 5 WiFi cameras all able to be  
seen on the Hikvision IVMS 4500 iPhone app. I have to do some work on  
the system and I'm looking forward to finding out how he did that.
 >>>
 >>
 >>
 >> I still use IP Cam Viewer Pro for Android.  It will hook to hundreds  
of different platforms simultaneously.  I don't think Robert ever wrote  
a version for Apple though.  I can have DVRs, NVRs, and IP Cameras all  
from different manufacturers all on screen at the same time.  Doesn't  
have playback capability though.  Just live stream.  Last time I bought  
a license for a customer it was $5.00.  Robert is constantly updating it  
to connect with more different equipment.  About every other time I  
start the software there is an update.
 >
 >
 > ROFLMAO
 >
 > Les


Ok, what did I say that was funny?  The update thing?  Its always  
drivers for more cameras, and more recorders.

On 9/12/2018 3:48 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:














"I don't think Robert ever wrote a version for Apple though."

"Robert is constantly updating it to connect with more different equipment."

Maybe I missed something but, I thought the Robert reference was
for Mr. Bass.  If not, my bad....................

On 9/12/2018 2:27 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
 > On 9/12/2018 3:48 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
 >>
 >> On 9/11/2018 6:55 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
 >>  > On 9/11/2018 9:30 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
 >>  >>> I've got a job I'm working on now with a residential CCTV  
system where the previous guy (who's now gone) was able to get four IP  
cameras going into a NVR, two network cameras and 5 WiFi cameras all  
able to be seen on the Hikvision IVMS 4500 iPhone app. I have to do some  
work on the system and I'm looking forward to finding out how he did that.
 >>  >>>
 >>  >>
 >>  >>
 >>  >> I still use IP Cam Viewer Pro for Android.  It will hook to  
hundreds of different platforms simultaneously.  I don't think Robert  
ever wrote a version for Apple though.  I can have DVRs, NVRs, and IP  
Cameras all from different manufacturers all on screen at the same time.  
  Doesn't have playback capability though.  Just live stream.  Last time  
I bought a license for a customer it was $5.00.  Robert is constantly  
updating it to connect with more different equipment.  About every other  
time I start the software there is an update.
 >>  >
 >>  >
 >>  > ROFLMAO
 >>  >
 >>  > Les
 >>
 >>
 >> Ok, what did I say that was funny?  The update thing?  Its always  
drivers for more cameras, and more recorders.
 >
 >
 >
 > "I don't think Robert ever wrote a version for Apple though."
 >
 > "Robert is constantly updating it to connect with more different  
equipment."
 >
 > Maybe I missed something but, I thought the Robert reference was
 > for Mr. Bass.  If not, my bad....................
 >


Robert Chou out of Hong Kong is the guy who wrote Ip Cam Viewer.  No  
relation.  He's constantly adding additional camera connection protocols  
and drivers to the software just about every day.


Hold on...


Yep more updates today.  Mostly tweaks for different version of Android  
and some tweaks to address particular phones and tablets.   Oh, looks  
like the App is upto a whopping $10 now.

FYI: There is a "Lite" version for free that only supports upto six  
cameras or DVR channels.  For some people that's enough.

On 9/12/2018 6:40 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:










Sorry Bob, I had no clue.  Please disregard my previous post.

Les

On 9/12/2018 6:40 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:


Sorry Bob, I had no clue.  Please disregard my previous post.

Les

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Oh, no worries.  I had talked about Robert Chou and IP Cam Viewer Pro here  
on the group before and I just assumed...

On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 at 5:28:02 PM UTC-4, ABLE1 wrote:

  

  

  

  


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. . . . . . . . . Speaking of such . . . . .  

Anyone know if RLB's online store is still up and running?  

On 9/12/2018 8:33 PM, Jim Davis wrote:



GOT's no clue......................

On 9/12/2018 5:33 PM, Jim Davis wrote:













I believe his wife ran it for a while, but now if you visit basshome it  
shows the domain for sale.

On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 3:17:09 PM UTC-4, Bob La Londe wrote:



Hmmmm

I'll resist my first impulse and just say . . . .  

Best to leave sleeping dogs lie.

"Jim Davis"  wrote in message  

On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 3:17:09 PM UTC-4, Bob La Londe wrote:



Hmmmm

I'll resist my first impulse and just say . . . .

Best to leave sleeping dogs lie.

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Maybe its time to reincarnate DIY Components.  Nah, I still don't have the  
time for that.