First Alert Fa 148c programming

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I have a customer who moved into a house with this panel.
I assume I have to buy a programming keypad or compass software for
First Alert.  Anybody have one of these for sale?

Re: First Alert Fa 148c programming
You can use an old 6139, or the new(er) 6160. There's no real need for
Compass...and I believe you'd need not only Compass but the FA patch
too...which may be hard to finagle if you're not in the biz.



|I have a customer who moved into a house with this panel.
| I assume I have to buy a programming keypad or compass software for
| First Alert.  Anybody have one of these for sale?



Re: First Alert Fa 148c programming

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Did you hook the battery back up correctly when you re-installed it?
Red- to red black to black, make sure the connections are solid.



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Yea it will do that



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Vista

Several First Alert panels will do just that, the 148C, 160C and a couple of
others that I know of



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8?



Re: First Alert Fa 148c programming
I've never seen that msg displayed anywhere. The 148 is the same as a Vista
15...the 6139 will program it. Did you have the keypad addressed correctly
and programmed in the panel at *190, 191 etc?


|I tried a 6139 keypad.    It said "incompatiable keypad"
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| On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:54:39 -0700, "Crash Gordon"
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| >You can use an old 6139, or the new(er) 6160. There's no real need for
| >Compass...and I believe you'd need not only Compass but the FA patch
| >too...which may be hard to finagle if you're not in the biz.
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| >|I have a customer who moved into a house with this panel.
| >| I assume I have to buy a programming keypad or compass software for
| >| First Alert.  Anybody have one of these for sale?
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Re: First Alert Fa 148c programming
I believe It was a FA 148 C.  I will double check later today.

I set the 6139 to adress 16 and 31.   Neither one worked.
The existing kp was disconnected for the testing.
The Ademco Tech told me it was a  vista 10 se.





On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:14:09 -0700, "Crash Gordon"

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Re: First Alert Fa 148c programming
Try keypad address 8, then try 0.



Re: First Alert Fa 148c programming
142c or 145c is a 10se, pretty sure the 148c is a straight 15.





|I believe It was a FA 148 C.  I will double check later today.
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| I set the 6139 to adress 16 and 31.   Neither one worked.
| The existing kp was disconnected for the testing.
| The Ademco Tech told me it was a  vista 10 se.
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| On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:14:09 -0700, "Crash Gordon"
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| >I've never seen that msg displayed anywhere. The 148 is the same as a
Vista
| >15...the 6139 will program it. Did you have the keypad addressed
correctly
| >and programmed in the panel at *190, 191 etc?
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| >|I tried a 6139 keypad.    It said "incompatiable keypad"
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| >| On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:54:39 -0700, "Crash Gordon"
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| >| >You can use an old 6139, or the new(er) 6160. There's no real need for
| >| >Compass...and I believe you'd need not only Compass but the FA patch
| >| >too...which may be hard to finagle if you're not in the biz.
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| >| >|I have a customer who moved into a house with this panel.
| >| >| I assume I have to buy a programming keypad or compass software for
| >| >| First Alert.  Anybody have one of these for sale?
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Re: First Alert Fa 148c programming
An Ademco 6150 will work on FA 147C and FA 168C, as will the Ademco 6128 and
its replacement, whatever that # is, I forget.

I do notice a lot of my FA 560's develop display problems like dark shadows
at the top - but who knows what happens to them to cause it.  Funny how
keypads I mount at 8 feet for door status never go bad.... The kp's I use
for 1/2 hour night shift check-ins are  wearing out after 5 years average.
Perfect app for a reader, but  I am stuck with kp's in 50+ bldgs that
generate over 1700 events every 24 hrs. Job security!

Rick

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If you don't mind me asking what was the 147C made for? I've heard that
model number but not who used it or roughly what panel it cross-references
to



Re: First Alert Fa 148c programming
FA147C - proprietary board for Guardian/Pittsburgh.  Defaults to their CS
and download #'s, also dialer is more robust in some way, as the 147C will
dial an extension on my PBX (Executone IDS) where a 20P will not break dial
tone consistently - no clue why but verified by installing two different
20P's in the can where the 147C was happy.
Guardian no longer uses the 147C, a 6 zone residential panel (similar to the
Vista 15), but has switched to the FA168C (a proprietary 20P), which will
also dial an extension on my PBX. As will the FA1600C, I've got 6 of those
as well.

The dialer thing drove me crazy a couple of years ago, but I am resigned to
buying FA boards or kits from Guardian, and choking when I see what they
list for at ADI.  At least it is company money, not mine!

Rick


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Re: First Alert Fa 148c programming
Thanks for the info, I always wondered about that panel and Honeywell
wouldn't tell me

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6128
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I'm sure you have although not on these specific systems, some FA panels
require FA keypads and some don't




Re: First Alert Fa 148c programming
If you try an Ademco 6150 on a FA1600C it says "incompat console" and does a
fast beep. And won't work.

Rick

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Re: First Alert Fa 148c programming
thanks, never knew that...coulda sworn I'd used ademco keypads on FAs
before.


| If you try an Ademco 6150 on a FA1600C it says "incompat console" and does
a
| fast beep. And won't work.
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| Rick
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| > You can use an old 6139, or the new(er) 6160. There's no real need for
| > Compass...and I believe you'd need not only Compass but the FA patch
| > too...which may be hard to finagle if you're not in the biz.
| >
| >
| >
| > |I have a customer who moved into a house with this panel.
| > | I assume I have to buy a programming keypad or compass software for
| > | First Alert.  Anybody have one of these for sale?
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Will FAs keypads work on Ademco panels? If so, maybe someone changed out the
FA board to an Ademco board, leaving it in the same can, at one point to get
the account.  Crazier things have happened.



Re: First Alert Fa 148c programming
Could be...stranger things have happened. One time we were trying to program
an Ademco panel (sorry, can't remember which model), we where having a hell
of a time, there seemed to be missing or extra programming addresses that
didn't match up with the programming sheet (new out of box panel mind
you)...turns out we had a pre-release version of something we should not
have had. Killed my entire day.



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| > thanks, never knew that...coulda sworn I'd used ademco keypads on FAs
| > before.
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| Will FAs keypads work on Ademco panels? If so, maybe someone changed out
the
| FA board to an Ademco board, leaving it in the same can, at one point to
get
| the account.  Crazier things have happened.
|
|



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Most will work, some won't. There's a cross-compatibility list floating
around on the web somewhere...



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