This is just for the florida. Will like to know who should pay for the required FASA certification. the employer or the employee? also is there any reference in the florida administrative code about this FASA. and how it should be administed.(the test for certification)
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we have a new certification in Quebec too..
To receive it you need to file a long 9 page form and pay 140.00$ +tx for the first year. if you fail the test you are reimburse 38$ and you cant work anymore in the trade..
then you have to pay 80$+tx every years to recheck your credential, if you fail, you loose it all, your certification and your job..
We are negociating the new collective agreement right now, I asked for the cost of certification is paid by the boss..
This whole thing is supposed to clear away the trade of fraud and bad company.. I really dont think it will have any effect at all..
You need to run this past FL dept of labor or equivalent or federal wage and hour division. because there may already be case law which decides these things in your state. Trade license could go either way. Its like the CDL license some company's will pay for you to get and maintain it some will not. depending if full/part time paid by load or by hour etc.
"Chapter 61G6-10.002 (15) (g) contractors who employ BASA, FASA or on-site sales personnel without providing for the training, ID cards or background checks will be subject on the low end to a fine of $500 and proof of compliance to the high end of $2,500 plus probation or suspension of license and proof of compliance."
Sounds like the employer is responsible, since the word "providing" is in there.
I liked things better when police & fireman installed alarm systems on the side...I yearn for the good old days. too much regulation is communism or socialism in disguise...Its all about the fees. The right to work ethics got tossed aside...
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I hope it's not just about the fees. I'd like to think the state is protecting consumers from ex-cons that may steal from them, and the technically inept technician that installs a non-functional system.
That part about the background checking is a very good thing for our industry, for the states that require them. It gives the customer a little peace of mind when they know for sure the guy that crawls in every corner of their home during the installation, and has the ability to bypass the "protection" is not himself a convicted burglar.
The part about training I guess would vary state to state. Passing a NBFAA level 1, and requiring CEU's for installers is a good start. But of course the Level 1 exam does not mean the guy who passed it can install a alarm. Not even close. CEU's are a joke too... spending 8 hours at ADI shooting the shit with your fellow tradesmen every 2 years does not impart a whole hell of a lot new knowledge.
I'd like to see a setup like electricians have to go through (apprentice, journeyman, etc..) with national standardized testing and experience verification protocols (like NICET for example).
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