DVR Cards

Dang!! I gotta get me some!! :-))

$6000 is about $5700 too much. ADT's cards are crap and way over priced. Check out mine

ADT sells DVR's from American Dynamics, Pelco, Bosch, GE, Integral, etc. We don't sell DVR cards. Nice try.

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American dynamics and pelco dvr are all pc based product wich mean dvr card....

never played with bosh..but i think its the same, GE,can you be more specific? Integral,whats that?

GE = crap, Integral= crapola, Pelco has a bunch of bells and whistles but an ugly interface and no live monitoring. The same with AD.

You can't be serious. There are a number of great DVR upstarts out there who stand behind their, IMO superior, products. It's silly to limit selection to three or four mega-corp units. The three you named may have some good products, but they are not the end all be all. Yeah, I know, ADT loves 'em. Spare me.

Oh, and I don't "trust" GE, Bosch, Pelco, or any of the rest as far as I can throw them. js

Who you gonna trust... GE, Bosch, Pelco or some crap you've never heard of?

Bosch makes both PC based and embedded systems. The Divar 2 is one of the best DVR's for the money on the market. GE bought Kalatel and has stamped their name on the DVMRe and the SDVR recorders. The products by Pelco and AD are much more than just a "DVR card." You get the expertise and experience of over a million installations, a real warranty, and hundreds of authorized integrators to make it all work.

If you want a science project, buy a $100 PC card on eBay and stick it in a $200 PC. If you want real security, look at what airports, casinos, and federal government installations use.

Its really a matter of horses for courses, the local gas station or liquor store probably doesn't need a $8000 DVR, and LAX or JFK Intl are probably going to want a little more than a Celeron box with a $100 counterfeit Geovision card wedged inside it

As to reliability, I've had about the same failure rate with the hard drives in name brand embedded units as I've had in lower priced PC based systems, the difference being you have to ship the name brands back for repair, the PC based machine you can replace the hard drive in one service call

Doug L

They are probably ADT authorised dealers

Doug L

I find the best way to learn things is to experience them. If you're using anything with an OS, then you have little to no experience with real DVR's in the real world. There's more to this business that buying a unit based on cost and plopping it on a desk somewhere. I'm betting, like the rest of the Industry has to offer, only about 3% ever even gets installed, or used correctly.

Hang in there J. Everybody has their place.....

Airports and casino's still use vcr's. We just bid on a contract at LAX to upgrade their dilapidated systems. GE, ADT, Integral, Pelco systems are way over priced, they can do that because they are large companies but their systems, most of them are missing key features like frame rate, High definition, live monitoring. All of those systems are Korean made and they buy them for around $1000.00 for a 16 channel card and sell them for $6000.00. Nasa is one of the first government agencies to use DVR's. The US Border patrol went digital and use I think Integral's system well it does not work

We bid on that one too.

I agree with this post.

ADT is using cards in "celeron" pcs in BC made by a company called zero-one. Seen it. Poor gui software, and 40 fps on all 4 channels per card, system goes for 6,000.

Crazy.....

Overhead.....

ADT BC Sales/installers. Thats it from me.

So according to what happen with this "A" typical Government installation, a

16 channel DVR from you would have fixed it? That's a good sales approach....until you speak to someone intelligent, or worse experienced. You really need to learn more about your competition, and broaden your views past the fancy GUI. Your starting to sound more and more like a Honeywell employee.....

We bid on that one too.

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Oh shit! Another Industry idiot with millions of years of experience...blah, blah, blah. There's an old saying where I'm from "never listen to an intelligent person and an idiot argue....sooner or later they both sound like idiots" I'm going to be the intelligent one here, and end this even before it begins. Keep peddling your crap though, un-be-none to you, guys like you are my best salesman, and a great asset for those of us who do this professionally for a living. Sounds like the Government even figured you out....what a shocker?

installation,

experienced.

>> We bid on that one too.

>> NEW Embedded system W/Linux. We now sell DVR cards.

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When you've been in the business as long as I have, when you lose multi-million dollar contracts because of "political contributions",when you have personally tested and consulted on almost every DVR on the market, I have the right to say "I told you so". It is called experience. I have it, they don't. Homeland Security blew it. They know that now. The government always over spends. I know my competition and my own product, the competition does not.

I think you would like to believe that has something to do with it, but there is more to government bids than "political contributions". Breaking into that arena is difficult and if you do get there, hold on to your back pocket because they will beat you into bankruptcy before you get a red cent.

What you didn't have was the lowest bid, a history of continuous nature contracts and the wear with all to play their game.

Right on all points, so what's new?

I know my competition and my own product, the

Are you sure about that? **They** may know more than you think or **you** may not know them as well as you think. In many cases the government entities know who they are going to use. The bid process is required but at times is simply a formality.