DIY Burglar Alarm and Video Security

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Hi guys,

I really enjoy reading your bantering.  It's good fun.

My boss is remodeling his house, and it's time for him to pre-wire for
burglar alarm and cameras.  I told him I'd help him out 'cause I'm somewhat
familiar with them both, although I'm not up to speed on the latest alarm
equipment.  Anyhow, can you recommend where we might go to purchase the:

1) camera wires
2) alarm wire
3) control panel, keypads, siren, switches, etc. (and please, recommend a
good panel for a 2 story, 2300 sq ft home)
I still don't know if he wants fire or not, but might as well figure he does
4) either a PC DVR card OR just a standalone DVR with digital recording,
preferably with built-in webserver but not absolutely necessary

We are in San Diego.  We have the Alarm Center.  But I was wondering if
something online might be cheaper.

Also it would be nice if I knew the wire gauge requirements, I suppose that
would be in the installation manual?

Thanks!

Sue




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Try Jack Stevens. He's old, and easily confused. He'd probably sell you
everything for ten bucks and a ride home.



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Where does he live?  Just kidding.  Thanks.  How do I contact Jack?

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Sue Odom wrote:
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San Diego.

How do I contact Jack?

alarman2000@yahoo.com
js




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Don't worry...  He'll find you...  :-)  He's a regular contributor in this
group.  If you're looking to purchase products on line, there are a whole
host of e-commerce stores set up.  In your area (California) there's
http://www.norcoalarms.com for starters.

For a panel (and if you're anticipating a do-it-yourself type job), I'd
stick with something fairly easy to program like the DSC "Power" series.
The "832" will go up to 32 zones and is a "hybrid" panel (capable of
hard-wired or wireless zones).  The "864" goes up to 64 zones.  Both are
capable of supporting X-10 home automation components on a limited basis.
You can look at these products at http://www.dsc.com .  If you really want
something your boss will love to sink his money into, check out the Elk M-1
Gold at http://www.elkproducts.com .  It's an awesome panel, but a bit
"pricey".

As for cameras...  Unless you know what you want to view with them
specifically, how you want the images processed, whether-or-not you want
internet accessibility, that field is "wide open".  There are a lot of
products out there I could recommend if I knew what it was he wants to
accomplish.

As for wiring...  Check out your local electrical wholesalers.  For CCTV
you're looking for either RG-59U or RG-6, you'll need two conductor 18 gauge
for power (either stranded or solid core LVT), and 22/4 Station "Z" wire for
the alarm system.  These come in reels of 250, 500, or 1000 feet.  For a
2300 square foot house you should go with 4 - 250' or 500' reels of Station
Z so you can make multiple "runs" from the control panel location to the
various zones in the house instead of pulling a single wire through at a
time.  For each keypad location, run 2 - 22/4's, for each door, window, and
powered device, one 22/4.  You'll need 18/4 for each smoke or heat detector
and if you intend on installing smokes it's best to run the keypad with an
18/4 as well (some jurisdictions may actually require it).




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Frank,

Somehow I missed your thread a few days back, thanks for the wealth of
information!  I don't know how I missed this one.

As for the security cameras, I know that what I have now is not ideal.  The
remote client talks to the server with TCP/IP over port 1999.  Since we work
at a company where the proxy server blocks all traffic except for http, I
cannot view our cameras from work.  So I guess whatever he buys will need to
have a built-in webserver?  I think he will want to go with a PC based
system, so what would you recommend there?  As far as image "processing", I
don't quite know what you mean.  My system just records on motion detect, in
a circular fashion, and if I want to go back and look at something, I merely
view the .avi files in Windows Media Player.  I can snapshot to .jpg files
if I want to.

Thanks!

Sue
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Check your email.




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Not too confused to read the sports page this morning. 5 in a row??
Bwwwaaaaaaaahahahahahaaaaa!
js




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You won at Bingo?




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Warming up the El Camino in hopes you can run another lady over?
Scram Pinkie, this lady wants someone who has a clue about the products
they hawk.



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It will end up cheaper at a local alarm supply...you won't pay shipping on heavy
wire or tax if you have an account there.


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I was thinking the same thing, but then I visited their website, and they
don't list Ademco, which seems to be the "tried and true".  I don't want a
Ronco or Acme control panel.  Do you agree that Ademco is a "tried and
true"?  That's what we have in our house, and it's simple to program, I
really like it.  No problems with it in 12 years.


It will end up cheaper at a local alarm supply...you won't pay shipping on
heavy wire or tax if you have an account there.


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Ademco is a solid product. I don't use it for my high end line, but it's good
stuff and the Vista10xx-15xx-20xx models are very easy to program.

Alarm Center doesn't sell Ademco.


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Yes, thanks Mr. Crash!  I'll look at those panels and check out the
differences.  Just out of curiosity, what do you use for your high end line?

Ademco is a solid product. I don't use it for my high end line, but it's
good stuff and the Vista10xx-15xx-20xx models are very easy to program.

Alarm Center doesn't sell Ademco.


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DMP: XR-40, XR-200


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Thanks!  I'll have a look.

DMP: XR-40, XR-200


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You have to become a dealer, which requires an investment of time (training) and
money (initial order). You want to stick with over the counter stuff if you're
not going to be selling alarms - Ademco, DSC, etc.



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Ah, ok.  Thanks.  I don't have time to become a dealer.

You have to become a dealer, which requires an investment of time (training)
and money (initial order). You want to stick with over the counter stuff if
you're not going to be selling alarms - Ademco, DSC, etc.



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Jack has pictures of systems he's installed, and even though he doesn't
shower regularly, he's top-notch.
Pay him no mind when he crows about the sports column. His Padres are
winning, which goes to show you that even a dead dog's ass will see
sunlight if given enough chances.

Jack WAKE UP it's medication time!
Show the lady the website.



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