cleaner wiring solution needed

You can take a single wire to the post and wire nut your 8-10 others to it... A little cleaner than it was...

A nicer way would be to use a terminal strip with the one wire from that post looping through to several terminals on the strip so the strip becomes a distribution bus.

Depending on the gauge of wires involved, the cleanest I've seen employs a

66 punch down block to patch everything through.

8 -10 devices? Better check your current requirements :-) I twist them all together with a pigtail for the terminal, solder and just twist on an suitably sized electrical marette. You could use terminal strips external to the can as well if you REALLY want a clean looking interior. Don't forget to leave a service loop.

didn't see the Aegis posts there..

jeeze Aegis, did we both knock off early today too? If you happen to have a beer in front of you right now, this would be just too freaky...

Bring all of the red (+) and black (-) wires together in two bundles. Add an extra pigtail lead to each bundle. Solder and tape the splices. Run the pigtails up to the AUX power terminals. This is the best technique.

If you don't want to solder and tape, you can also use a Marr connector of the correct size as well. Make sure you twist all the red wires together tightly after stripping off about 1 inch of the insulation, so the Marr connector simply ensures a continuing tight joint, just as you would when wiring AC. It also pays to double up the wires in the pigtail...ie two red wires twisted together at each end going to the Aux + and two black wires together in the Aux -.

I have installed over 1200 alarms for my own company, as well as others, without a hint of a problem this way.

R.H.Campbell Home Security Metal Products Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

WARNING! DO NOT DO THIS! If you put + and - together you will short out your power supply! Fast buck Bass not in the trade and is misleading you so he can sell more equipment to unsuspecting DIYers.

don't care how many bundles it is. If you put " + and - together " you will short the power supply. Besides it no cheaper a shot than what he frequently does.

Uh...I don't think he said that. Shorting black and red is an obvious "no no"....

RHC

Granted, but one would expect a VERY clear, concise, and simple explanation for a possible novice DIY'er to follow. It wasn't a clearly defined explanation for a novice, IMHO.

"Take all of the square pegs, and place them into the square holes. Then, take all of the round pegs, and put them into the round holes..."

Do you think someone is forging his messages?

Shorting black and red is an obvious "no

I agree!

now that a cheap shot.. even if I blocked him cause he is making too much noise...

he never meant to make the op do what you think ... he didn't wrote it clearly enough but it was not that bad...

for the op what he was trying to tell you is make a bundle with all the negative wire...then a bundle of all the positive wire..

take each bundle and put one wire from each bundle to the good terminal..(negative to - and positive to +)

god I think I am surrounded with kids that like to pick on each other....

(and I don't help!!!!!!!!)

Actually....I was kind of digging the sound of wiring them all together. That would be neat. Hell....that would be wicked cool!

slow nite

you must have espn if you know what he meant

don't forget the key word 'together'

just on fast buck

thanks :)

R.H.Campbell wrote

Parallel conductors?? What th...but...

;-)

js

I have to disagree. An improvised power distribution bus is the best technique, IMO.

:-)

Hmmmm

Do I hear .......

500? 700? 1000? 1200?

Do I hear 1500?????

going once

going twice

going ..... wait .....

wait a minute.

I think I hear 1500 coming from up north .....

============== Well Robert..........

You know how I really hate to say ..... I tol ya so .....but hey ......... what the hell. Eh?

Now all you have to wonder about is:

the other things I've predicted about your so called "business plan"

Sorry, this is a resend....something strange going on with my computer....

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My "so called" business plan is working well I'll have you know. Contrary to most companies in this industry, I actually created a very real business plan based on sold rate models that I used when working in Bell Canada. Nor have I had to change it much during it's implementation. My son is now full time in the business and will be taking it over very soon. Our revenues continue to rise dramatically, and my service costs are far below what I imagined they would ever be. My phone continues to ring continually, and I have ZERO overhead costs when it comes to advertising and promotion. Our company has come to be known for it's straightforward and totally honest approach to dealing with clients, and I'm damn proud of that (I will gladly tell a client when we are not his best choice for security services when we are not...). My reputation in the local industry is solid; nor do I ever have to resort to getting "down and dirty" with many other local companies. And the longer I'm in this business, the firmer my beliefs are about certain industry practices. And just to reiterate (if it even matters to you) here is what I've come to believe to be true

1- Long term contracts demanded by most companies in this business (when not necessary to ensure a "free system" is paid for) are almost an industry scam. There is simply no need for them! Most cases amount to nothing more than a customer ripoff !!! 2- Most small companies charge excessive rates for monthly monitoring services (in excess of $20 even when not paying down the cost of the system put in at an artificially low price). Larger companies need this level legitimately to maintain their higher overheads, but smaller ones are simply feeding at the trough !! 3- There ought to be a law against locking customer owned fully paid for alarm panels. 4- The marketeers of free systems have cheapened the market even while creating increased demand 5- You don't need a long term contract on accounts to make them valuable to more sophisticated buyers 6- There's no true leadership in this industry by the largest of the alarm companies. They simply are the largest (and some would say the worst) of the bottom feeding money grubbers. 7- You don't take every customer that comes in the door. You have to stay strictly within your market niche. 8- You must weed out your "non payers" ruthlessly 9- Automatic billing is the only way to go. If they don't want that, then send them elsewhere.

I have about 800 accounts now and growing fast at about 5 a week. I wouldn't have gone beyond my ceiling of 500 if my son hadn't joined me in the business. I thought I would spend my time doing service work, but that simply hasn't come about. I'm going to head out on my motorcycle soon and leave things in good hands !! And to sum it up, I don't give a tinkers damn whether you or anyone else agrees with my methodology; my customers do. I look after them first and foremost and it seems they look after me ! If what works for you is different...well fine....good luck to you...I truly wish you every success.

And the last thing is, how the hell come I see your posts. I blocked your mostly vulgar posts long ago. Seems I'll have to do it again.

RHC